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Offline lozzark

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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #45 on: 11 May 2014, 02:26:53 AM »
Eh?

A 400g tin of chopped tomatoes is a whole 12g, @ 3g per 100g.

There's 19g in 100g of tomato PASTE though, so 38g in a whole tube of Tescos, which is 200g.

Dunno about Passata or whatever, you'd have to check the labels.
I just checked the Passata in the cupboard:  it has 4 g CHO per 100g.  Typically I would use 200g in a spag bol for 4 peeps.  Dolmio has only about 6g per 100g
I'm really shocked about the CHO/sugar in tomato pure!
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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #46 on: 11 May 2014, 07:49:35 AM »
Hi - intrigued by your reference to ground almond pizza- where could I find the recipe ? Annie

This is the one I like -

http://lowcarbediem.com/ketosis-mini-meal-plan-and-recipes/almond-flour-crust-spinach-feta-pizza/
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Offline sedge

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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #47 on: 11 May 2014, 12:47:19 PM »
Well it's very concentrated, I mean I don't think you'd use it on pizza without diluting it, would you?  Wouldn't spread very well and would be a very strong taste, could overpower other things you're putting on top.

Pete does a spaghetti thing (known in the family as Grandad's spaghetti LOL - actually, it's his first wife's aunties recipe!) which uses a whole small TIN of tom puree but since you only use one tin for 4 people (or even more people) it's not really a prob - in comparison to the spag itself !  I dunno what's in one of those tins though, I looked yesterday but we've run out, must remember to get some!  I shouldn't think there's much more than 100g to be honest; which between 2 of us is 100% fine.

Not everyone on the forum has to be particularly low carb anyway.  It's just easier, and nearly everyone needs to feed the rest of their family.  You could spread it thicker one side and divide the pizza with a row of whatever you are putting on it.  Mom had to do that with cheese onion and potato pie when we were little as sis didn't like onions!
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Offline pms543

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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #48 on: 11 June 2014, 09:29:53 AM »
Hi - intrigued by your reference to ground almond pizza- where could I find the recipe ? Annie

This is the one I like -

http://lowcarbediem.com/ketosis-mini-meal-plan-and-recipes/almond-flour-crust-spinach-feta-pizza/
looks delicious! Must try
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Offline Type2Si

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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #49 on: 09 July 2014, 10:16:47 AM »
My bg rise before breakfast is a real issue now.

I tested it one morning, fasting bg 8.6 (tested within 5 mins of waking) rising to 17.6 in 45 mins!

I need to be clever with breakfast but I'm bored do boiled eggs!
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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #50 on: 09 July 2014, 10:22:59 AM »
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I tested it one morning, fasting bg 8.6 (tested within 5 mins of waking) rising to 17.6 in 45 mins!
That's an enormous rise without any food.  Even for FHTF (foot hits the floor) that rise is simply stunning.  You could try stopping it by having a bit of protein right away e.g. a small bit of cheese, but having said that your fasting isn't great either.  What are your numbers like for the rest of the day?

I'm not blaming you for those numbers, but something isn't right at all.  I note from your sig that you're only on metformin and Bydurian now?  Perhaps it's time to see your GP and perhaps ask for a referral to the endo.
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Offline lozzark

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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #51 on: 09 July 2014, 05:21:13 PM »
My bg rise before breakfast is a real issue now.

I tested it one morning, fasting bg 8.6 (tested within 5 mins of waking) rising to 17.6 in 45 mins!

I need to be clever with breakfast but I'm bored do boiled eggs!
Are you sure about that rise and was not contaminated by anything on your hand and your meter & strips are not faulty?  It is a huge rise and well out of any of my experience (except if I drank something like lucozade).  If it is reproducible I'd see the doc soon as.
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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #52 on: 12 July 2014, 02:06:58 AM »
My bg rise before breakfast is a real issue now.

I tested it one morning, fasting bg 8.6 (tested within 5 mins of waking) rising to 17.6 in 45 mins!

I need to be clever with breakfast but I'm bored do boiled eggs!
I agree with Patti and Lozzark, that is too high for normal DP. I would have washed and re-tested.

These may help for some variety: Breakfasts

I had leftover stew this morning. Delicious :)
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Offline Karen233

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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #53 on: 22 October 2014, 02:57:19 AM »
Eating breakfast is one of the most important meal of the day. If you want to lose weight, maintain weight or increase metabolism, you should always eat breakfast.

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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #54 on: 26 October 2014, 08:29:48 AM »
A healthy breakfast refuels your body and replenishes your blood sugar (glucose), giving you the energy necessary to start a new day. In addition, a growing body of evidence indicates that breakfast is good for both your physical and mental health.

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« Reply #55 on: 26 October 2014, 12:33:57 PM »
Breakfast is really difficult for type 2s.  Usually the liver has dumped enough glucose in my bloodstream to prevent me eating carbs of any sort for hours.  Besides the notion that breakfast is needed is out moded received wisdom, not standing up to scientific scrutiny.
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2014/08august/pages/breakfast-not%20the-most-important-meal-of-the-day.aspx
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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #56 on: 26 October 2014, 02:08:44 PM »
In case anyone wonders, Carol won't be found on the 'members' list.
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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #57 on: 26 October 2014, 02:18:36 PM »
Well that may be true (that your dawn phenomenon isn't disastrous) for you Nick - but certainly won't be true for anywhere near all diabetics.

Hardly a study that the basis of anyone's diet (diabetic or non-D) should be based on anyway, as it only used 3 dozen LEAN people - and it did 'seem' to have an effect on the afternoon blood glucose anyway.  Usually we have enough trouble with our BGs anyway that we don't need any added influence to make em erratic!
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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #58 on: 26 October 2014, 02:29:07 PM »
In case anyone wonders, Carol won't be found on the 'members' list.

Didn't think so  ;)
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Re: Breakfast?
« Reply #59 on: 26 October 2014, 04:45:13 PM »
It's funny how blood glucose levels change over time. Since the birth, I can now eat porridge at breakfast time, I find it keeps me going from about 6.30am to 11am when I most definitely need some lunch or I dip pretty fast. But I never used to be able to eat porridge!
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