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Offline TerryJ

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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #1 on: 30 August 2014, 12:39:50 PM »
A very sensible article. 
He should have pointed out that "I run" is an anagram of "ruin" (relating to wrecking one's joints, feet, back, etc...)!
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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #2 on: 30 August 2014, 01:37:20 PM »
Twenty years ago I started going to the gym. Part of my chosen exercise was running on a treadmill for one mile.  It took 13 minutes: an ex-colleague remarked "I can walk faster than that!"  After lots of persistence I reduced the time to 8 minutes.  However I developed very severe pains in my shins Whereupon I decided running was not a good idea for an overweight person.  I only ever walk or swim these days.


Although exercise is good, there is such a thing as exercising too much causing distress to the body.
An interesting article discusses the concept of excess free radicals causing stress on the body.
The Free-Radical Dangers of Overtraining and Overeating
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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #3 on: 31 August 2014, 10:59:47 AM »
It's not hard to incorporate more walking into your day, just by either parking further away from your destination or walking instead of driving.  Running seems like a deliberate action.  I do a fair bit of walking.  It's why we bought a house in town rather than a nearby village.
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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #4 on: 31 August 2014, 12:10:42 PM »
However I developed very severe pains in my shins Whereupon I decided running was not a good idea for an overweight person.  I only ever walk or swim these days

Shin splits don't last forever and there are exercises you can do for them. Yes they are extremely painful (I had them a few times). They are the result of an imbalance between the muscles in the front and back of your lower leg. Usually happens by doing to much too soon.

For anyone who wants to run or learn to run there is a very good course with podcasts and help and an online support forum (and we all know how beneficial those are)  which takes you gradually from walking to to run 30 minutes - HERE.  Other running programmes are available.

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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #5 on: 31 August 2014, 07:28:27 PM »
Never run and prob never will
went to gym and do a 10 min walk on treadmill on max incline and a  pace to get my heart pumping and was told that was just as good
 
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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #6 on: 31 August 2014, 11:21:00 PM »
At my age, I'm more concerned with exercise that is sustainable and walking is the only one I've found so far that I actually stick with. I've lost count of the various exercise fads and miracle devices I've tried over the years, but walking is the only one to stick for the long term.
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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #7 on: 01 September 2014, 12:27:52 AM »
However I developed very severe pains in my shins Whereupon I decided running was not a good idea for an overweight person.  I only ever walk or swim these days

Shin splits don't last forever and there are exercises you can do for them. Yes they are extremely painful (I had them a few times). They are the result of an imbalance between the muscles in the front and back of your lower leg. Usually happens by doing to much too soon.

For anyone who wants to run or learn to run there is a very good course with podcasts and help and an online support forum (and we all know how beneficial those are)  which takes you gradually from walking to to run 30 minutes - HERE.  Other running programmes are available.

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I'm happy walking or swimming, or something I'm pretty good at: sculling.  But since walking is free I'll stick with that.  There is bridge nearby with a 30% incline.  It takes me 10 minutes to walk up that!
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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #8 on: 02 September 2014, 12:23:25 PM »
I'm not a fan of running - that's mostly just personal taste. I respect people who run for sport, but it just isn't for me. I love to walk, especially through woods when I get the chance (not often living in an urban area, but oh well).

I also know that I spend most of my time, like it or not, sitting in a chair. Even when I'm sleeping, the most comfortable position is the fetal position, which is really still sitting in a chair (hips flexed, knees flexed) while lying in bed. I know that this means that I, like most people in our modern age, have all kinds of muscle imbalances. Short hamstrings, short psoas. Short calves from wearing heeled shoes (including running shoes/sports shoes; we don't think of them as heeled shoes but most of them place the heel a good inch or more above the toes). Weak hip, glute, and hamstring musculature (the muscles that are meant to do the weight-bearing work while upright). I have a body that's adapted for chair-sitting, because that's mostly what I do, and those adaptations don't go away when I stand up. That all predisposes me to put excess loads on my knees and lower spine, among many other things. I don't want to take this maladapted-for-being-upright body and expose it to even more force and impact through running.

I'm not saying that, therefore, no one should ever run! I know there are people who enjoy it and really get a lot out of it, and so to them, it's a worthwhile use of their time and their body. I don't, and to me, it's not. I love to work up a good sweat, doing calisthenics and such, but I know that "hard exercise" applied to the body that I have increases my risk for injury (knees and back but also internal things like wounding of the blood vessels which can lead to plaque formation), and I know that exercise doesn't actually have to be hard to be beneficial. Walking (over ground, and with work to counter those sitting adaptations) is incredibly beneficial to the body in terms of forces and loads on bones, muscles (and not just the muscles you would think! For example walking with proper gluteus activation also benefits the pelvic floor muscles overtime; walking outside and looking say, 100 feet ahead benefits the tiny muscles that work to focus the eyes), and the circulatory system. I don't mean to say that running, working to counter the same adaptations, wouldn't also have those benefits, rather that walking DOES have benefits which are often overlooked because it's "not hard enough work."
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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #9 on: 02 September 2014, 03:27:42 PM »
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walking outside and looking say, 100 feet ahead benefits the tiny muscles that work to focus the eyes), and the circulatory system.
In Penzance doing that would improve your chances of stepping in dog poo!
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Re: Walk or run ?
« Reply #10 on: 02 September 2014, 03:42:34 PM »
lol yes, there's that!
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  ~-~-~-~
"If you can't ride, can you fall?"
"I suppose anyone can fall," said Shasta.
"I mean can you fall and get up again without crying, and mount again and fall again and yet not be afraid of falling?"
"I - I'll try," said Shasta.
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  ~-~-~-~
"There is no answer; seek it lovingly."