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Offline sedge

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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #15 on: 11 January 2015, 10:17:03 PM »
Well none of them would you add salt to anyway - not in my house or my mom's house before me.

Salt in chilli? - what's the point?  unless you put half a ton in, it would be overwhelmed by the chilli powder and if it's not - well add more chilli!  LOL

Do people put salt on (any) meat before they cook it?  Why? - you lose the moisture.
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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #16 on: 11 January 2015, 11:21:56 PM »
Well none of them would you add salt to anyway - not in my house or my mom's house before me.

Salt in chilli? - what's the point?  unless you put half a ton in, it would be overwhelmed by the chilli powder and if it's not - well add more chilli!  LOL

Do people put salt on (any) meat before they cook it?  Why? - you lose the moisture.
indeed -- this whole topic is about alternatives to salt -- mainly have people increased their use of pepper or herbs as an alternative
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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #17 on: 11 January 2015, 11:48:34 PM »
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Do people put salt on (any) meat before they cook it?  Why? - you lose the moisture.

I did tonight... on the crackling with some fresh thyme leaves, some olive oil, fennel seeds and pepper. We had slow roasted pork belly which I cooked for 3 hours and the crackling was a marvel!  The meat was tender and falling to bits with no fat left on it!  Thank you Hairy Bikers!

Sat it on some apples and onions for an hour towards the end and made cider gravy with the pan juices.  Yummy scrum!  Also did the HB's mulled cider red cabbage - nicest red cabbage I have ever had.  I usually rather dislike the vinegary taste with red cabbage, but the flavours in this recipe couldn't be faulted.
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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #18 on: 12 January 2015, 12:22:20 AM »
we all know that loads of salt is not good for us but does anyone besides me use lots of pepper and herbs and have come to really enjoy pepper on their food like I do ??

Loads of anything in excess is not good for us, but the scare tactics for salt are similar to the scare tactics for saturated fats.

IIRC about a third of people may have a link between hypertension and excess salt intake. For the rest of us it is not only an acceptable garnish it is a very necessary part of the diet. There is a reason why the tribes controlling salt sources in ancient times became rich. It was essential to health.

When I cut out all high-salt processed foods from my diet immediately after diagnosis I made the mistake of also adding no salt at all to my home-cooked food. Within a very short time the frequency and severity of my night cramps increased dramatically.

I tried using potassium salt instead. It tasted terrible and the cramps were just as bad. Eventually I returned to adding normal levels of salt to recipes and sprinkling it as I always had on my food. The cramps decreased.

Getting back to your original point, depending on the recipe or menu I regularly use any or all of: grated black pepper, turmeric, chili, parsley, cumin, paprika, cinnamon, cayenne, basil, grated parmesan, nutmeg, mint, rosemary, curry mix and lots more.

And salt :)
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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #19 on: 12 January 2015, 08:15:38 AM »
thanks for that Alan


yes i too use a bit of salt in potato cooking water and on certain dishes such as scrambled eggs .



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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #20 on: 02 February 2015, 06:55:20 PM »
I'm a cracked black pepper freak too. I also make my own red chilli pepper in my little electric spice grinder. I have my own fresh thyme growing outdoors in a planter. And I have a spice rack filled with jars of just about any dried herb available.
I used to use Lo-Salt at one time but went back to common old Saxa table salt, used in moderation (My doc has told me to cut back on salt, bacon, sausages and cheese because my BP is high)
As to using salt and sugar in tandem I would guess that's about the most common pairing in most processed foods.
Oatmeal Porridge to me would never taste the same without a good sprinkling of salt (and sugar) I learned that from a good Scottish friend of mine and I became hooked. I also used to work with a guy who loved to eat cheese and jam baguettes every day for his lunch (salty/sweetness combo)

Anyway.....Any type of pepper and herbs will suit me just fine... Lo-Salt is a thing of the past (because of the potassium element that Nyt alluded to)

BTW, does anyone remember those packets of Smith's crisps with the little blue paper twist of salt inside? You do? Well you are too old to be worrying about salt consumption! :-X
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« Reply #21 on: 02 February 2015, 06:59:19 PM »
Hey! I'm not even 30 and I remember the Smith's crisps with salt packs.
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« Reply #22 on: 02 February 2015, 07:44:32 PM »
I hate to tell you this Liam, but I think they re-introduced them after years of being off the market!  G,D&R!
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« Reply #23 on: 02 February 2015, 07:51:54 PM »
I think they might have done that more than once then? I remember them as a young kid and them disappearing then coming back.
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HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #24 on: 02 February 2015, 07:57:33 PM »
You are probably right Liam.
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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #25 on: 02 February 2015, 09:13:08 PM »
I think they might have done that more than once then? I remember them as a young kid and them disappearing then coming back.

You can still get them today - although whether it's their fourth time around is debatable, they don't have blue twists of paper holdig the salt they have little blue paper sealed packets in the crisp packet.

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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #26 on: 02 February 2015, 10:05:47 PM »
These are the ones I was referring to - 1920/1950. Old Twopence a bag, they cost threepenny-bit when I first bought a packet
https://www.flickr.com/photos/castlekay/2630591987/

My oh my.... such a nostalgic sight   :)
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Triglyceride: March 2011  - 0.6 / Jan 2012 - 0.7 / Feb 2013 - 0.9 /  Feb 2014 - 1.7
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« Reply #27 on: 02 February 2015, 10:32:00 PM »
They didn't look like that the first time I saw them but they are the same idea.
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HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #28 on: 02 February 2015, 11:07:58 PM »
They didn't look like that the first time I saw them but they are the same idea.

They did when I was little Tony!

The bags were 'sort-of' more opaque greaseproof paper - dead good fun to blow the bag up after and pop it behind your mom's back while she hadn't got her eye on you !  But they were wrecked then.

The salt twists were waxed paper though weren't they?
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Re: substitutes for salt
« Reply #29 on: 02 February 2015, 11:16:55 PM »
They did when I was little Tony!

The bags were 'sort-of' more opaque greaseproof paper - dead good fun to blow the bag up after and pop it behind your mom's back while she hadn't got her eye on you !  But they were wrecked then.

The salt twists were waxed paper though weren't they?

Yep, that's just how I remember them. Even down to popping the bag trick, ha ha
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HbA1c - * Jan 2009 - 13.8 *  Apr 2009 - 8.6 * Jul 2009 - 7.9 * Nov 2010 - 8.8 * March 2011 - 8.4 * Jan 2012 8.8 *Feb 2013 - 8.2 * Feb 2014 - 8.6
Triglyceride: March 2011  - 0.6 / Jan 2012 - 0.7 / Feb 2013 - 0.9 /  Feb 2014 - 1.7
Cholesterol HDL: March 2011 - 2.37 / Jan 2012 - 2.0 / Feb 2013 - 1.69 / Feb 2014 - 1.96
Cholesterol LDL: March 2011 - 2.0 / Jan 2012 - 3.6 / Feb 2013 - 3.1 / Feb 2014 - 3.1

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