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Pauline

It's an interesting discussion.  Perhaps we can continue it in a new thread?


Hi I was away most yesterday but read the return of Kethry topic -- saw the above posted by patti and wanted to get the discussion started -- it is a fascinating topic and one we can all participate in adding either what we saw and how much , links to new recipes, different ideas on low carbing some may not be aware of.

i want to start with one of my own "recipes" along with prices this is a handy lunch type dish        but does require a bit of prep but also can be stored in an airtight container after making in fridge for use over a few days

ingredients as follows
1 jar of pickled gherkins ( Lidl 99p ) 1 tub crefa cream cheese ( lidl 69p ) 1 pack wafer thin ham slices ( lidl 1.29 )

place 1 slice of ham on chopping board - spread a thin layer of cream cheese on ham , meanwhile cut gherkin lengthways in to quarters then place 1 quarter gherkin along front edge of slice of ham and roll up. pickled gherkins 2.6 CHO per 100 gram , cream cheese 0 CHO per 100 gram , ham slices 0 CHO per 100 gram

you could easily get 20 of these rolls ( determined from number of ham slices )an alternative is to use a spring onion instead of gherkin ( lidl 45p a bunch ) approx 9-10 spring onions 03 CHO per 100 grams
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #1 on: 22 January 2015, 10:14:41 AM »
Patti suggested a new thread yesterday and I was going to sort it this morning but you beat me to it.  I have copied part of my first post to Kethry (slightly amended) and have pm'd Patti to see if she can move her post and my second one into this new thread.

It must be almost impossible following a low carb diet on a tight budget.  My evening meals normally consist of a choice between meat and three vegetables, courgette "spaghetti" bolognese, stir fry or curry on cauliflower rice.  I don't eat potatoes and try to stick to green vegetables and to add variety, I often buy mangetout, sugar snap peas, courgettes, sprouts and green beans, all of which are very expensive.  Good quality sausages with low carbs, bacon, eggs, strawberries, raspberries and avocados can all be costly too, so it is difficult to find something affordable to eat for breakfast and lunch that doesn't contain starchy food like bread.   
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #2 on: 22 January 2015, 11:13:13 AM »
Hi Pauline
yes i agree it can be a challenge and sorry to beat you to the topic but it has so much appeal and potential interest i couldn't wait - LOL


hopefully it will just rumble along and gain momentum and daily and weekly offers on prices as well as other tips on low carbing ideas  :)
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #3 on: 22 January 2015, 01:03:44 PM »

It must be almost impossible following a low carb diet on a tight budget. 


Tight budget is difficult to define and I don't expect a definition, but as someone who drives the elderly to Tesco to do their shopping, I regularly see them spend £50 - £70 for a weeks shopping. I know I can easily spend £10 a day. What do people spend on their weekly shop.

Alternately, Google "low carb on a tight budget" there's a lot there.

I'm interested because I'm well aware of a tight budget from my childhood right into my late twenties when there definitely wasn't cash to throw around. I'm OK while my wife is working but well aware that the situation changes when she retires in three years.
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #4 on: 22 January 2015, 02:09:50 PM »
I don't low-carb, because I've tried and I hate it. If I spend much more than £20 a week, it's because I've bought stuff on offer for the freezer/cupboards.

And I do eat processed food, because the range of meals I can make with value mince, value pork chops and pigs liver is rather limited.
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #5 on: 22 January 2015, 04:14:53 PM »
We were spending around 50 quid a week, for a normal shop. These days its a lot less, as little as possible, but we are living off existing supplies a lot at the moment. Eventually that will run out and then I'm not sure what we'll do. I just hope we find work before that happens.

I already shop at Lidl where possible. Himtoo - your idea sounds fab, and I'll definitely try it! I think similar things could be rolled in things like lettuces (which, if you growyerown, can be dirt cheap..... I'll get me coat). If you were lucky enough to get some cheap smoked salmon, ferinstance, that, with some cream cheese, rolled in the lettuce could be lovely. I know there's a chinese takeout dish that does some form of minced meat with fried vermicelli or something, rolled in lettuce - Lettuce is definitely something that should be used more as a "container" to hold foods where necessary. I'm trying to do something with minced beef tomorrow night and lettuce - I'll let you know how that goes.

Paulines7 - I'd echo what Patti said in the other thread about veg from lidl. at this time of year avocados are often cheaper. One for lunch - cut in half, stone out, with a little sprinkling of lime juice and some pepper, then eat with a spoon, like you'd eat a boiled egg. That's the simplest. It could also be made into a sort of roughish dip type mixture, and spooned into lettuce. (I have a lettuce fixation today, clearly). If you can tolerate carbs a bit, then you could do a wrap with it - I used to do one with two wafer thin chicken circles in the middle, to provide a waterproof barrier, dump around half an avocado mix on top (avocado, mayo, spring onion, chilli, coriander, lime juice all finely chopped and mixed together, that sortathing) with chopped crunchy lettuce and a sort of salsa (aka finely chopped toms) ontop of that. Roll the whole thing up in some foil and eat. Great to put in the fridge and run out with it the next day. I have no idea how the tortilla wrap type thing would be on the carb count though, and whether there are lowercarb alternatives.

lettuce maybe? (*hides*)
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #6 on: 22 January 2015, 05:03:53 PM »
This is gonna  be a really good thread for me  I think

I need to low carb and hoping to start properly on Monday. and will need to be as low costing as possible

looking forward to all the treads
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #7 on: 22 January 2015, 05:36:09 PM »
Yuk Shung or Chung is the Chinese thingy, has to be iceberg though - floppy lettuce not acceptable LOL

I reckon we spend about £60 a week - we spent about £300 between 12 Dec and 12 Jan, but of course that included Xmas and New Year and included 2 cooked hams for buffets - and suchlike.
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #8 on: 22 January 2015, 06:31:47 PM »
FWIW I did my grocery shop today.  Started off in the local greengrocer (last night when I finished my voluntary stint in town) where I spent £6.36 on greengroceries (inc 3 large raw beetroot* for 90p).  Today I visited Lidl and spent £34.38.  Though I confess to being tempted into purchasing a 1KG box of mussels in their shells in garlic butter for £2.49 - can't buy a kilo of mussels for less than £3 in the fishmonger.  Also a pack of venison sausages for £1.99 that we didn't really need (I did resist the chorizo cooking sausages that are on offer at £2.58 because ISTR we already have some in the freezer).  Then I went to Tesco where I spent £32.04 which included a completely unnecessary slab of belly pork for £8 which I justified by thinking it would do 3 dinners if I supervise portion control, and 1KG of boneless pork cutlets for £5, which again will do 3 meals for 2.  I then spent a further (and somewhat unnecessary £7.26 in Sainsbury because Tesco didn't have diet ginger ale, if they had I wouldn't have gone to Sainsbury this week).  So a grand total of £79.04 which is about average.

*The beetroot is delicious peeled, cut into wedges, drizzled with oil and baked in the oven for about 40 minutes with some wedges of red onion and lots of sliced garlic, serve on top of a bed of lentils that you've cooked with diced carrot, diced mushroom and some celery + a pinch of chilli flakes and a knob of grated ginger.  Can't remember the carb count, but I can put it into the Cook&Count app on the iPad if anyone is interested. I served this the other week as an accompaniment to sausages - but that's the only way I can get away with veggie dishes in this house - if I serve them as side dishes.

Lidl had huge piles of swedes that are on offer for 50p.  I see what Pauline was saying about no sell-by dates on veggies from Lidl, but swedes go a bit soft when they're old and these swedes were really hard.  ATM they have raspberries in 2 for £3 which are packed by "Driscolls" and we've noticed that this brand are always really fresh and nice whole berries not squished ones which tend to go mouldy, these seem to keep well in the fridge.  Their blueberries are 90odd pence a punnet and again, nice unsquished whole berries.

Kethry, I got 2 Avos from Lidl last week for 59p each (hard as old nick when I bought em but a week in the fruit bowl and they're lovely) and we had half of one this lunchtime in sandwiches with sliced tomato, garlic mayo as a spread, lettuce and crispy streaky bacon. It was lovely, just ripe enough without being too squishy.  I echo what you say about lettuce being useful in wraps.  We had a party before Xmas and I did a tray of little gem leaves filled with coronation chicken and another with prawns in mayo with Singapore spices.  The lettuce things were first off the buffet table.
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #9 on: 22 January 2015, 06:38:09 PM »
PS.  A sandwich made with 2 slices of Burgen is 24g for the bread.  I've discovered Warburton's thins that you split in half and the wholewheat ones are 19.8g each so that saves 4g carb at lunch time.  I thought they may not satisfy as they're quite small, but I've been happy with them this week, I just put lots of filling in.
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #10 on: 22 January 2015, 07:29:16 PM »
I know I can easily spend £10 a day.
I should add that's for two people.
Also, my OAPs are spending £50+ per person, often relying on processed foods as veg doesn't seem to last that long. They're not in the fortunate position of visiting several different stores, and our "Good Neighbours" group for whom I volunteer only go to Tesco or the Co-op.
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #11 on: 22 January 2015, 07:44:32 PM »
Kethry -- you are now to be known as "The Queen of Lettuce "  --LOL ;D

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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #12 on: 22 January 2015, 09:37:32 PM »
Ours varies a bit. Yesterday was our weekly trip to the supermarkets in the 'big town'. We spent $50 on groceries. We generally spend another $20-$25 locally. Allowing for non-weekly items such as bulk meats, beer, wine etc. we average well under $110 per week or a little under £60 in your money.

I wrote some details about the techniques I use here: The Price of Eating Healthy

In brief, I spend a few hours each month on two cost-saving activities:
  • buying meats in bulk and packing them in serves for the freezer.
  • cooking bulk batches of soups, casseroles, stews and similar foods.
After buying bulk meat I spend an hour or so slicing a rump of beef into single serves or stew cubes, or turning chicken wings into three pieces (wingette, drummette for wrapping in fours and tip which goes into the stock-pot for a few hours), or making mince into burger patties etc. Then I wrap all individually in plastic for the freezer.

I prepare fish similarly, when there are seasonal price reductions.

On a single Saturday afternoon I spend about an hour preparing two or three casseroles and a batch of soup. Once the preparation is done and they are in the oven or bubbling on the stove I just check them occasionally while watching football or cricket. I get 10-12 serves of soup from a batch and 7-8 serves from each stew.
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Re: discussion on low carbing on a budget ( and price tips too )
« Reply #13 on: 22 January 2015, 09:53:06 PM »
An example of my batch cooking: Breakfast Stew this week. In this case the meat was free, but half a dozen beef sausages are only about $3 or £1.60. I can't guess the prices of the veges, but I doubt they added enough to make the final cost more than $1.50 or £0.80 per serve.

Twice a month I volunteer as cook for the local Neighbourhood Centre at our market sausage sizzle. That involves cooking between 200 and 400 beef sausages and several kilos of onions over six or seven hours. Sometimes there are some left over at the end of the day; last Sunday it was my turn to take home some leftovers.

In a large saucepan I caramelised two medium sliced onions in olive oil, then added minced ginger, minced garlic, one finely chopped de-seeded birds-eye chili, celery, cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli and a carrot, all sliced or chopped as appropriate. The choice of ingredients was based on what was available in the fridge and could be different next time. I could have added potato and sweet potato, but I reckoned the carrot were hitting my breakfast carb limit already. Quantities were rough, between a half-cup and a cup.

When the veges had sweated and softened over low heat I added half a dozen roughly chopped pre-cooked sausages, enough beef stock to cover the lot, seasoned it with paprika, salt and grated black pepper to taste and let it simmer covered for about an hour. When the liquid had reduced to be just enough to be a gravy I sprinkled in some guar gum to thicken it and cooked for a final five minutes.

When it cooled I transferred the stew to single-cup plastic containers for the freezer. This batch made eight.

One of those, via the microwave, was this morning's brekky. Delicious.
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« Reply #14 on: 22 January 2015, 10:47:19 PM »
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but half a dozen beef sausages are only about $3 or £1.60.
In Australia.   In the UK a decent type of sausage is about £2.50 for 6.  You can get cheap ones full of rusk.
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