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Offline Dr DeEath

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Fungal Nails
« on: 06 August 2015, 06:33:34 PM »
A few years ago I had an emergency hospital admission (non-diabetes related). Once I was well enough to get up I was told to go for a shower. I was slightly reluctant to do this as the facilities left a bit to be desired. Anyway afterwards I developed fungal nails. Whatever I do only seems to improve things temporarily (CuraNail, the ExEloir pen, etc.) and the doctor will not give me the pills for it as I am on statins and other meds. Recently I have seen “cold laser” advertised. When I rung the people they said it was totally safe but then they would. I am worried about getting injured (internal burns, etc.) because of loss of sensation, but am totally fed up with having to hide my toe nails.   :-[  Has anyone experience of this treatment?
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #1 on: 06 August 2015, 06:57:20 PM »
Not of this treatment but I know the only thing that worked for a couple of people in my family was the anti-fugal drugs from the GP. They had to be pretty pushy to get them because I believe they are fairly nasty drugs but they both got them and they worked. I guess I can kind of see why doctors don't really want to give them for something they only see as cosmetic really.
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #2 on: 06 August 2015, 08:56:38 PM »
Fungal nails can take forever and may never get better. My dh (who does not have diabetes) has had them for years and years. Lamisil is the drug and it can cause serious liver damage which would appear to be fairly common. Both a skin specialist, chiropodist and GP my dh saw advised against Lamisil even though dh doesn't have any liver problems nor does he take any other medication. The GP, who is in his early 30's, told dh that he has fungal nails too: "a friend for life" he told him. The GP would not take Lamisil either.


Loceryl nail laquer is the only thing dh uses and that isn't very effective….might be worse without it though. He also gets his nails trimmed and cleaned by chiropodist so they don't look so bad.
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #3 on: 07 August 2015, 12:05:16 AM »
I did think I had fungal nail but after a sample was sent away I was thankful that it wasn't (it was discoloration due to wearing nail polish).  The GP did warn that she did not want me on Lamisil as it was quite dangerous.

I have seen something somewhere that claims to help by painting it on, but I really can't remember what.
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #4 on: 07 August 2015, 07:57:01 AM »
You can get Lamisil cream which isn't dangerous like the Lamisil tablets.

I've read that the cream will help against nail fungus but dh hasn't found it so - he uses it on the skin on his feet as the fungus is there too…..not that you can see it but tests revealed it was there.
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #5 on: 07 August 2015, 08:26:55 AM »
Interestingly enough, just in the past couple of days I've seen a few reports about Vicks Vaporub as a cure for nail fungal infections. Might be worth a try. Quite a few results come back in an internet search.

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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #6 on: 08 August 2015, 03:11:36 AM »
A few years ago I had an emergency hospital admission (non-diabetes related). Once I was well enough to get up I was told to go for a shower. I was slightly reluctant to do this as the facilities left a bit to be desired. Anyway afterwards I developed fungal nails. Whatever I do only seems to improve things temporarily (CuraNail, the ExEloir pen, etc.) and the doctor will not give me the pills for it as I am on statins and other meds. Recently I have seen “cold laser” advertised. When I rung the people they said it was totally safe but then they would. I am worried about getting injured (internal burns, etc.) because of loss of sensation, but am totally fed up with having to hide my toe nails.   :-[  Has anyone experience of this treatment?
Not quite the same as a fungal condition; I corrected an infection at the point where a big toenail is ingrowing with regular application of betadine.
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #7 on: 08 August 2015, 07:48:57 AM »
sorry -- stupid question first

do we think this is yet another "diabetes related type issue" ??

I have a fungal infection in my toes and am using Amorolfine solution painted on 2 times a week-- been using it for about 8 weeks so far -- hasn't cleared yet :(
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #8 on: 08 August 2015, 10:33:18 AM »
Paul


Fungal nail is a fairly common thing amongst people who don't have diabetes, so I have assumed in the past that it's not specifically diabetes related but then, peeps with D often get thrush because high BGs provide a nice sweet environment that encourages the fungus.  I suppose the same could be said, though I know you have very tight control and it's usually people with poor control who suffer thrush.
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #9 on: 08 August 2015, 10:38:16 AM »
Decided to do a bit of googling and came up with this page from NHS choices http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/fungal-nail-infection/Pages/Introduction.aspx.  Very interesting!  Apparently laser treatment IS safe and effective, but only available privately.
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #10 on: 10 August 2015, 06:11:14 PM »
I started the Vick's treatment yesterday. As the local supermarket did not stock it in  in 30 yards of medicines I had to go to the local chemist who offered me an inhaler. He looked very puzzled when I said it was for my toes! :)

My podiatrist says although it is quite common it does seem more common amongst us diabetics! He developed Type I in his late twenties.
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« Reply #11 on: 10 August 2015, 10:07:55 PM »
Well, I suppose your podriatist would see more than most who have it and if he seems to think the higher incidence is in peeps with diabetes I think we might think he's right.  I wonder why you can't get ordinary Vicks... try Boots?
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #12 on: 20 August 2015, 07:09:53 PM »
I have this fungal nail on both large toes and not on the others, don't really know why the others don't have it too.  The Podiatrist I go to said he feels it seems to happen more to people with diabetes because our immune systems are comprimised.  I also have some kind of a cyst growing on my index finger next to the bottom of the nail that causes the nail to have a ridge on it. 

My husband had the fungal nails on his toes some years ago and took the tablets for two months.  He no longer has the problem, but the doctor tested his blood about every three weeks too.  It must be a powerful drug.
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Re: Fungal Nails
« Reply #13 on: 10 September 2015, 10:18:02 PM »
My husband had the tablets too and his cleared up. Doc wont let me have the tablets - to toxic he said and as I already take piles of drugs he didn't want to add that one into the mix. So I use some liquid that you apply every week. Seems to be improving now. However saw podiatrist yesterday about something else and he said I must also treat socks and shoes. Hadn't thought of that.
Bit fed up though as I go dancing a couple of times a week  - more fun than the gym and it has caused a bony callous to grow on the side of one foot - such a pain as now it can get rubbed by shoes and then I have blisters. You can't win can you, the dancing has got some weight off and it is fun.

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« Reply #14 on: 10 September 2015, 11:08:35 PM »
The dancing sounds like more fun than any other exercise I have ever heard of!  I'd do that!
Patti


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