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Offline Paulines7

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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #30 on: 06 February 2016, 06:51:00 PM »
Pauline -  sounds like a good appointment - you were able to have quite a discussion by the sound of it.

Sedge, John had an appointment at 4pm to do with his cough and my appointment was at 4.20pm.  I went in with John and when she had finished with him she said that I was next as she had no other appointments in between.  We must have been with her at least half an hour.  Having read the copy of the report that I gave her two weeks ago, she probably kept that time free.

Pauline
It must have been hugely satisfying for you to have been able to have an intelligent and adult conversation with your GP on the subject of statins, well done!  Sorry, if that sounds patronising, it's not meant to... it's just rare that patients are allowed to have that sort of conversation without the GP "knowing better".  You have a keeper there.

As regards CoQ10 being on prescription - well, Lamberts Co-Enzyme Q10 Capsules appear on the NHS Electronic Drug Tariff Part XVIIIA Products K-L
http://www.drugtariff.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/#/00299312-DD/DD00298895/Part%20XVIIIA%20Products%20K-L
so if they are there then surely they are prescribable?  FWIW Lamberts Selenium tablets appear on the same page.  It might be worth pointing this out to your GP, though if push comes to shove presumably you could fund them yourself?  Trouble is knowing the correct dosage, so many over the counter supplements are woefully below the optimum dose.  Certainly worth asking at the Heart Failure Clinic.

My GP and I often have conversations about controversial subjects such as the eatwell plate, low carb diets, cholesterol and statins.  She agrees with me that there is so much new information on these subjects now, that things are changing from day to day and the experts are still arguing about what is correct.  I asked her if she would like me to put into writing that it was my decision not to take the statins.  She smiled and said that it would not be necessary. She said I was an intelligent person who had spent a lot of time looking into all the pros and cons of statins and I was perfectly able to make my own decisions.   

Thank you for your link regarding the CoQ10 and selenium supplements, Patti.  I will look into it and will definitely ask about them at the Heart Failure Clinic.  At the end of the day though, I may just have to fund them myself.

It seems Beconase has helped you both, Sedge and Patti, so I hope it gets rid of any inflamation that I have too.  I seem to remember being on it before, about 20-30 years ago, but I can't remember why I was prescribed it. 
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #31 on: 07 February 2016, 11:44:15 AM »
Back to the original subject of this thread ie "Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa", I read the first two chapters last night and then went to Chapter 18 this morning to read which food and drinks were allowable and which ones should be off the menu.

The diet is very similar to the low carb one that I am already on for my diabetes, but Dr Briffa's diet is even stricter.  Cream, milk and "no added sugar" drinks are not allowed and as I don't like the taste of water on its own, I am going to be struggling with what to drink.  Artificial sweeteners are also off the menu.  The diet is for those people who want to lose weight as well as for those with diabetes.   

I thought I would give the diet a try, perhaps for a month or so, to see if I can shift some pounds.  It may even bring my HbA1c down in the process!
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #32 on: 07 February 2016, 02:00:58 PM »
I agree... I couldn't cope with only drinking tap water.  Can you drink those flavoured water drinks?
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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #33 on: 07 February 2016, 02:08:08 PM »
I agree... I couldn't cope with only drinking tap water.  Can you drink those flavoured water drinks?

He hasn't mentioned them so far, but I am off to Tesco in a few minutes so will have a look at the ingredients on the bottles. 
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #34 on: 07 February 2016, 02:23:13 PM »
They're on offer now 5 for £1.50.  I like the orange and peach still one which has 0 carbs.
Patti


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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #35 on: 07 February 2016, 11:04:45 PM »
All the flavoured waters in Tesco had sugar or sweeteners.  The orange and peach ones have Sucralose.  See: http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=277144273

One thing is certain, I am not going to find a suitable drink without sweeteners.  It looks as though I will have to compromise somewhere along the line as I really detest plainwater. 

It will be the same as far as coffee is concerned as I really dislike it black. 
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #36 on: 08 February 2016, 09:35:15 AM »
Didn't realise about the sweeteners Pauline,  only really interested in the carbs.  As you say, it's going to be difficult for you to find anything suitable really.
Patti


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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #37 on: 08 February 2016, 10:34:43 AM »
Without sweeteners, there are going to be too many things off the menu.  No muffins, lemon drizzle cake, cheesecake or syllabubs, just to name a few things that I make every now and again. 

I can see that I will not be able to follow Dr Briffa's diet. 

GrammaBear, how far have you got with the book and what do you think about his extra strict low carb diet?  Will you have a go at it?
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #38 on: 08 February 2016, 02:59:04 PM »
Without sweeteners, there are going to be too many things off the menu.  No muffins, lemon drizzle cake, cheesecake or syllabubs, just to name a few things that I make every now and again. 

I can see that I will not be able to follow Dr Briffa's diet. 

GrammaBear, how far have you got with the book and what do you think about his extra strict low carb diet?  Will you have a go at it?

I actually finished reading the book and like you, Pauline, I read some things that I had trouble dealing with.  I do like flavored water, cream in my coffee and an occasional sweet treat made with artificial sweetener.  In my part of the country, we have those delightful little mandarin oranges "in season" right now and I love them.  I also got the impression that many of his remarks were directed to people with type 2 diabetes.  Being type 1, I have to take insulin for simple things like green vegetables, coffee with cream, even a half an apple.........so I don't think I can stay with Dr. B's diet.  I'm sure it works for many people, but I am not one of them.
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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #39 on: 08 February 2016, 04:35:09 PM »
I personally don't see the problem with sweeteners, unless he thinks that they encourage people to have a sweet tooth.  Or there is some other scientific reason, but if there is then has he explained that in his book?  If there isn't then surely he's imposing a "diet" on you that feels unnatural to you.  I thought that the idea of beating the diet trap was that your new eating regime should avoid feeling like a diet and should be something you can easily maintain for the rest of your life.  If his regime is such that it feels like a penance then he's missed the point hasn't he? 

Perhaps I shouldn't give my opinion since I haven't read the book!
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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #40 on: 08 February 2016, 04:50:05 PM »
I personally don't see the problem with sweeteners, unless he thinks that they encourage people to have a sweet tooth.  Or there is some other scientific reason, but if there is then has he explained that in his book?  If there isn't then surely he's imposing a "diet" on you that feels unnatural to you.  I thought that the idea of beating the diet trap was that your new eating regime should avoid feeling like a diet and should be something you can easily maintain for the rest of your life.  If his regime is such that it feels like a penance then he's missed the point hasn't he? 

Perhaps I shouldn't give my opinion since I haven't read the book!
 

Patti - I see no harm with sweeteners especially if you use them in moderation.  Quite honestly when I read his comments about things to leave out of your diet, I did feel like it was penance.  I do enjoy heavy whipping cream in my coffee of a morning.  I usually try to drink but two cups of coffee and not much more - so I don't get too much caffeine which tends to keep me awake at night.  I think if one reads his book and never had a prior understanding of low carb diet, then they would gain a lot of knowledge.  I agree with you that a low carb diet should be something that can be maintained for the rest of your life.  Dr B's diet is not something that I personally can follow forever.  I happen to like a bit of a sweet treat now and then.  The pudding recipes on the forum seem like a perfect way to do that. 
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« Reply #41 on: 08 February 2016, 11:44:56 PM »
I think that sweeteners were banned because he said they caused weight gain.  He suggested a little maluka honey instead.  I will make a note of the text when I start reading the book again. 

I am now reading another book called "Ben" by Kerry Needham, which I will finish before going back to Dr Briffa.  It's about the little boy that disappeared on the island of Kos about 20 years ago.
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #42 on: 09 February 2016, 04:53:51 PM »
I think that sweeteners were banned because he said they caused weight gain.  He suggested a little maluka honey instead.  I will make a note of the text when I start reading the book again. 

I am now reading another book called "Ben" by Kerry Needham, which I will finish before going back to Dr Briffa.  It's about the little boy that disappeared on the island of Kos about 20 years ago.

Pauline - do let us know how you like the book "Ben".  I've been tempted to purchase that book because it sounded so interesting.
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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #43 on: 10 February 2016, 11:09:30 AM »
Gramma Bear, I can't put the book down!  The first few chapters are about Kerry and her family.  It covers Ben's birth and leads to when the family went to Kos.

I have followed the news about Ben on TV and in newspapers since I first heard he was missing, but the book goes into a lot more detail about how the police on Kos didn't act responsibly.  There was no proper search of the area like they do in the UK if a child is missing.  The police said they would check the ferry but when Ben's grandfather turned up to meet them there as arranged, there was no sign of the police and it transpired that something more important had kept them away....some trouble with Albanian gypsies.  The police seemed reluctant to help the family and the Consulate weren't willing to help either. 

I bought the book secondhand and noticed that in the US they also have used ones on sale.   $4.97 including postage.  See:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0091950872/ref=sr_1_1_twi_har_2_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1455099982&sr=8-1&keywords=ben+needham
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Escape the diet trap by Dr. John Briffa
« Reply #44 on: 10 February 2016, 11:42:27 AM »
I've been reading sweeteners trick the brains of people that can still produce insulin into doing just that. Meaning the body tastes sweet, releases insulin and then causes a crash and hunger. I only read the article and not the papers but I wonder if that is why he suggest not using them.
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