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Offline Lucy

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Gardening
« on: 26 March 2016, 06:02:47 PM »
Well spring is here so i've been doing some gardening. In all honesty i don't know the first thing about gardening and havent a clue what i'm doing. I'm currently taking the "throw lots of random seeds at the garden and see what works" approach. I've got some raspberry bushes and pear trees along the back wall, assorted flower seeds in the borders, turned over a patch and put strawberries in, then put some vegetables in pots along the sunniest edge of the decking. It's not a huge garden but it's big enough to have a go at growing things. I'd like to learn more about what on earth i'm supposed to do to keep things alive and get things to grow though so trying to read around the internet about it. Maybe one day i'll have an actual living plant in my garden - that's the aim anyway!


Seems good exercise anyway, preparing ground and lugging compost about etc, and the dog enjoys sitting in a sunny spot watching. Any tips offered about what grows well in pots are welcome! (I've got plenty space to put pots as half my garden is taken up by a large and slightly pointless area of decking)
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Re: Gardening
« Reply #1 on: 26 March 2016, 07:32:50 PM »
Everything that grows will grow in pots Lucy whether it's a sweet pea or an oak tree.

The best way of growing stuff though, is to start em off in pots - or at least a seed tray - eg on windowledges in the kitchen for example.  It's warmer down south where you are of course - but usually best to wait until after the frosts have finished cos the soil is warmer and more conducive to germination of anything - except plants you don't want - ie flippin weeds.  Trouble is when seeds start coming up - you don't know if it's a dock, a dandelion or an ollyock!! - and therefore which ones to pull up and which ones to leave.   Not expensive things, just fairly flimsy pressed black plastic (though more expensive ones are ALWAYS available LOL)  and you can either use potting compost or 'riddled' garden soil.  P compost usually gives stuff a better start though TBH.  Then when they get going a bit - two levels of leaves - pot on into a single pot (or saved Yoghurt tub with a hole bogged in the bottom)   They then make better progress again and after another fortnightish you then harden em off - just stick the trays outside in the daytime for a while but bring em in at night.  Then - plant em out exactly where you want em to be.

You have to water everything whether in the garden or in pots - but water in a morning, not at night - this reduces the chances of frost damage should it suddenly go cold again overnight.

In high summer - again water mornings - but now, as early as poss! - if you water in full sun you can actually cause 'scalding' damage as the sun heats the individual  droplets of water on the leaves and petals.  Plus - the poor ole plant hardly gets a drink cos the water evaporates before it can sink into the soil to benefit the roots.

However - don't fret - just wait and see what comes up, what you do well with and what you don't.  And - anybody! - if you fancy a hardy fuchsia - and you are coming to this years meet, I'll start some cuttings.  This ole buggar is foolproof after it's first winter, but I'd need to take the cuttings and start em in about May/early June.
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Re: Gardening
« Reply #2 on: 26 March 2016, 08:31:58 PM »
Thanks sedge, I'm going with the wait and see what happens, I've used compost as there wasn't actually much soil in my garden, but with gravel at the bottom of the pots. I'm sure something will work, the pear tree has just started with little buds growing so that seems to be alive. Off to google whether there are any idiots guide tv programs to watch.
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« Reply #3 on: 26 March 2016, 09:49:31 PM »
Lucy -- you should get an award for gardening !! and then you could come and do my garden ( i don't like gardening ) ;D
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Re: Gardening
« Reply #4 on: 26 March 2016, 10:02:35 PM »
That would be the worlds worst gardener award himtoo! I havent had anything grow yet!
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« Reply #5 on: 26 March 2016, 11:34:54 PM »
You could try looking up a chap called Monty Don, Lucy - he does the BBC gardening progs.  It's on weekly - they tell you what you should be doing 'this week' eg pruning stuff, and also things like 'Now's the time when we should be planting our whatever' - and they plant it, in a pot or outside, and explain everything as they go along.

Check out the Gardening progs though - cos when you see a flower tree or bush you fancy, you can specifically Google 'how to grow a lesser spotted thingymajig'.  They generally tell you the common names as well as the Latin ones.

My Dad actually had an ancient well thumbed copy of a tome entitled 'The Gardener's Year' which he invested in before he got an allotment to grow veg.  It really was an Idiot's Guide - but to be honest, he'd be the first to admit that he learned as much if not more off the blokes on the other allotments.

So - just do it - and don't worry about swatting up unless whatever it is fails, but you WANT it to grow another time cos you like the flowers etc!

For instance Buddleias are brilliant for attracting butterflies.  They really are.  They also attract moths - which you might not want too many of, thanks ..... and unless you 'dead head' them before they run to seed your garden next year will be overtaken will thousands of teeny weeny baby Buddleias in any earth mud, gravel or concrete surrounding your house ... thank you, Fred next door.  Also for your donated convolvulus under the gravel board of the 40ft fence between us ...... and for removing the totally gorgeous old established Clematis Montana that grew in your garden and covered the whole fence in an absolute profusion of glorious snowy white every Spring, which you replaced with a bloody sodding Virginia Creeper.

And sod the blokes who though of building all these houses in a place 100 yards over the border of a place called Ash Green.  The seeds of the ash tree have 'wings' and are wind dispersed - and once more - like to take root in absolutely anything apart from stainless steel, from what I've seen over the last 18 years!  Aaaarrgghh !

Good luck !!
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Re: Gardening
« Reply #6 on: 27 March 2016, 10:19:04 AM »
Lucy


I hope those raspberry canes are in pots, otherwise they are likely to completely take over the patch and they are a bitch to get rid of.  We inherited a patch when we moved here, the first year I got excited over the raspberries, until I discovered they were all full of bugs or had snail trails on them.  After that we got fed up and pulled em out, but they still kept coming up through the lawn.
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Re: Gardening
« Reply #7 on: 27 March 2016, 12:34:16 PM »
My top tip (learn the very hard way of pulling hundreds of seedlings each spring) - if you grow aquilegia (lovely flowers very pretty) make sure you chops the seed heads off before they go crunchy and tip their seeds everywhere.  I started with 3 small plants In white, pink and purple, and now all along the back of the border I have every shade in between and double heads, double colours, they are pretty.  One year I forgot to collect the seeds and wham, they are prolific.  iF you want any seeds just ask!

I just rented a raised bed in our village allotments for me and Theo to grow veggies, good fun and will get us out the house.
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« Reply #8 on: 27 March 2016, 02:50:32 PM »
Oooh - lovely Fee! - and 'free' fresh salad every day!
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« Reply #9 on: 27 March 2016, 03:25:18 PM »
Yes, we get a bit of space in their polytunnel too, so hoping to have tomatoes, cucumber, spinach, courgette, herbs, lettuce, dwarf beans, carrots, spring onion, peas and sweet corn.  I'm going for variety over quantity on my small plot!
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« Reply #10 on: 27 March 2016, 09:21:38 PM »
Courgettes and Cucumbers usually need a cold frame to grow successfully ie they'll grow but if you want to eat em LOL as they are both exceedingly susceptible to slugs - yuk yuk yukky yuk, shudder.  Dad grew em (cucs not courgettes, who had heard of them? - and nobody liked marrows!) a couple of years but we didn't eat a great deal of cucumber and so they decided it was a bit too much like hard work, for the small amount of enjoyment that we got out of it in the end if you see what I mean.

Anyway - start saving your eggshells to put around slug attractors!  (wash em LOL)
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Re: Gardening
« Reply #11 on: 27 March 2016, 11:31:37 PM »
Lucy


I hope those raspberry canes are in pots, otherwise they are likely to completely take over the patch and they are a bitch to get rid of.  We inherited a patch when we moved here, the first year I got excited over the raspberries, until I discovered they were all full of bugs or had snail trails on them.  After that we got fed up and pulled em out, but they still kept coming up through the lawn.

oh no! my mum chose and planted the raspberries and pears for me! The raspberries currently have zero signs of life and look like dead twigs stuck in the ground. No branches or green or anything. They are in a small strip of border between the garage and the decking which should limit their ability to spread. I don't want them everywhere though! The pear trees are in opposite corners of the garden, one has sprouted little buds.
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« Reply #12 on: 28 March 2016, 08:56:58 AM »
You may find the raspberries start trying to come up through the decking.... If they take that is.
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Re: Gardening
« Reply #13 on: 28 March 2016, 11:53:00 AM »
Lucy, the first thing you need to know about your garden is whether you have acidic or alkaline soil as this will dictate what you plant. You can buy a cheap testing kit for this but you can also see what your neighbours are growing.  If they have rhododendrons and camelias, you will have an acidic soil.  If you have an alkaline soil, you can still grow acid loving plants but they will have to be in pots with an ericacious compost that you can buy in DIY stores and garden centres.  I am on chalk, which is very alkaline so my acid loving plants such as blueberries and rhododendrons are all in pots.

Sedge says in her post that you are "down south".  Whereabouts are you?  I live in a small village about ten miles north west of Salisbury and grow several different fruits and vegetables in my large garden.

Are the raspberries summer or autumn fruiting, Lucy?  If the latter, they should have all been cut to the ground a couple of months ago. You can still do this now.  If they are summer fruiting, however, just cut last years canes down to the ground and tie in the new ones, which will be developing buds.  This should normally be done after they have fruited.  You will need some wires fixed to the wall, to tie the new canes to.  See: http://www.pots2plots.com/Fruit/Growing%20Raspberries.htm

Nothing tastes better than fresh vegetables and the easiest ones to grow are runner or climbing French beans and peas.  Regarding the peas, I prefer to grow sugar snap and mange tout varieties.  They can be grown in pots with cane supports and many beans and pea plants have beautiful flowers. See: http://www.container-gardening-for-food.com/growing-green-beans.html   Tomatoes and cucumbers can be planted in growbags placed in a sheltered and sunny part of the decking.

My courgettes are started off in the greenhouse and then transferred to a vegetable bed in May after the last frosts.  I tried to grow some in large pots last year but they didn't come to anything.  When I have been short of space, I have put courgettes in flower beds and still managed a good crop.

You should be able to pick up gardening books from secondhand book stores or even in charity shops. For ten years, I have been a member of the Allotments4All forum.  It is not only for those who have an allotment, but is for anyone who has an interest in gardening. The people on there are very helpful regarding any questions asked.  The link is: http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/smf/index.php?action=forum

Good luck with your new garden, Lucy.  If there is anything that you are not sure about, just send me a pm. 
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« Reply #14 on: 28 March 2016, 12:28:02 PM »
Ah that's true Pauline - Lucy's house is in Poole (ish)  - forget Nepal or wherever they actually hail from - all round B'mouth it's the rhododendron capital of the world! - but doesn't mean her garden follows suit actually so neighbours gardens will definitely be the clue.
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