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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #15 on: 05 December 2016, 07:02:12 PM »
You'd have to know before you needed them, parked in a field in the middle of nowhere, I should  think.  However though we always carry tissues - we have also always got an ample supply of kitchen roll - but even that wasn't strong enough for a lot of it - TMI .....
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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #16 on: 05 December 2016, 09:33:15 PM »
Sedge

I have at least 2 packets in every handbag + a drawer full of em at home.  Every so often Lidl do 48 packets for just under £3.  Then on holiday we never take enough so end up buying another packet of 10 packs.  Currently got both French and  Spanish ones in the drawer.
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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #17 on: 06 December 2016, 12:35:17 PM »
Well I agree they are better cos they are usually 3 ply, aren't they?  But not that big so I know darn well with a cold, I'll only be able to use em the once and may need 2 in order to 'blow' the once anyway, which is a bit of a drag and I'll land up with err, detritus all over my hand anyway.  OK for normal use when I haven't a cold - but there again I probably only need to blow it once a day normally!
Jenny

T1 DX 1972, pumping Novorapid 24/05/11

HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #18 on: 06 December 2016, 10:12:53 PM »
Paper hankies aside I do NOT GET IT!  Last night we had a roast dinner for which I bolussed appropriately.  BG before 5.8 which gently rose to 12.4 then levelled off and gradually fell back into the 5s.  A small hump with a level top.  Tonight we had the 2nd half of the roast dinner.  Was slightly higher at 6.4 before dinner, due mainly to a hypo (not severe, 3.8 ) and slight correction about 6pm (1.5 hrs before dinner).  So more or less the same dinner, give or take a bit of goat's cheese that I added to the Cavolo Nero tonight, which really should have ameliorated any spike, but no... straight up to 14.9 with no signs of levelling out so have just had to do a correction!
Patti


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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #19 on: 07 December 2016, 12:32:13 PM »
Is there an R in the month?

These are the things which diabetes sends to try us - and they do.  They can't be explained because there is no explanation except maybe your helpful body decided you were more hypo than 3.8 so threw in a liver dump?

But who knows the secret of the Black Magic box - certainly not I, ever since they changed all the centres LOL
Jenny

T1 DX 1972, pumping Novorapid 24/05/11

HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #20 on: 07 December 2016, 04:14:32 PM »
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Is there an R in the month?
Er, yes I fink there is!

So... it came down overnight to around the 6 mark and then for no reason I can figure, it rose back to 8.9 FBG, which, unusually, was 7am as we had to go to the hospital a few miles away for 10am for J's appointment.  Had I not had the Libre on and scanned/tested I would have thought it had only dropped to 8.9 without the dip and rise.  Not that it makes any difference as I haven't a clue what to do about it.
Patti


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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #21 on: 08 December 2016, 04:12:00 PM »
...... aaaand the saga continues!

After the hospital we went to ASDA and then M&S to pick up some bits and pieces and lo and behold I was hypo in M&S, having shot up after the toast I had for brekkie initially.  So treated that and shot up into the teens, despite only eating 4 glucose tabs and half a cereal bar (whole thing was 14g carb, so what I had was approx 7g), which dropped down to 8 before a late lunch and then shot up again and then dropped again early evening, when I treated with Jelly beans.  Said to J, it's the dreaded rollercoaster and I have to get off it somehow.  Dinner was eaten fairly late and was chicken breast stuffed with a lump of Dolcelatte and then wrapped in air dried ham and baked, roast golden and red beetroot with garlic and red onions, butter braised leeks and peas and some new potatoes done in the oven.  BG barely rose and I chuntered along all night in a straight line in the 5s.  Go figure... how are you supposed to alter basals when they are so unpredictable?
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 April 2016.


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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #22 on: 08 December 2016, 05:18:10 PM »
Just out of interest why the cereal bar? These days I treat with glucose tabs and sometimes a -temp basal depending on IOB / actively. I feel your pain on what to do when there isn't a nice clear pattern.
DX Type I 1994.    Novorapid Animas Vibe pump
HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
Ramipril: 10mg Quetiapine: 550mg Metformin: 2000mg

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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #23 on: 08 December 2016, 06:12:31 PM »
I carry a cereal bar which is partly habit left over from MDI days, I ate it on that occasion because I was hungry as it was lunchtime and we had quite a few more errands to run before lunch.

I do try not to follow up with slower carbs and put a TBR on instead and mostly do.
Patti


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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #24 on: 08 December 2016, 06:45:49 PM »
Fair enough. Was just wondering if you'd found it worked better than TBR or not.

DX Type I 1994.    Novorapid Animas Vibe pump
HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
Ramipril: 10mg Quetiapine: 550mg Metformin: 2000mg

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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #25 on: 08 December 2016, 06:54:13 PM »
I don't think it does work better than a TBR.  I think a TBR works better... the slow carbs tend to shove you up more than you need.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 April 2016.


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Re: Just goes to show how often basal needs checking.
« Reply #26 on: 09 December 2016, 05:28:11 PM »
I'd agree with you there. I've found TBR changes to be much more smooth in their effect. The only time I treat with 'slow' carbs now is really when I'm fighting my body, the brain knows I don't need them but the panic wants them. The numbers haven't even been that low (I used to be able to fight unless the numbers were very low) and I can't stuff shaking and panicking. Been a couple this month like that, one was overnight and lead to a high morning result. The one during the day I knew I'd well over treated and took insulin to cover the carbs just as the shaking stopped.
DX Type I 1994.    Novorapid Animas Vibe pump
HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
Ramipril: 10mg Quetiapine: 550mg Metformin: 2000mg