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Offline JDRF UK

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Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« on: 05 April 2017, 12:20:57 PM »
Good afternoon everyone,

Here at JDRF UK, we would like to know if you have been fined for picking up your type 1 #diabetes prescription without a medical exemption certificate. If it's happened to you in the last two years and you live in North Yorkshire, please contact 07908 155480.

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Callum

Offline Pattidevans

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #1 on: 05 April 2017, 01:53:45 PM »
I've heard of this happening in various places, but it's not happened to me.  Since I am over 60 I no longer need one anyway.
Patti


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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #2 on: 05 April 2017, 01:59:14 PM »
Thank you Pattidevans.

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #3 on: 05 April 2017, 07:40:33 PM »
Never happened to me, either before or since.

Sounds like someone at the PCT (if it's they, I dunno who's responsible for such things today since it's beentoo long since I've been young enough too LOL) or wherever, firmly wearing a Jobsworth hat to me.  I've always found it perfectly ridiculous for at least T1s having to renew the flipping things in the first place.  Hallo - it's INCURABLE - and we're always going to need insulin until we shuffle off our mortal coils!

Come back and speak to us again AFTER they've found the cure and we've all recovered!  LOL
Jenny

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HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #4 on: 06 April 2017, 09:30:27 AM »
The various surgeries I have used over the years go through various cycles of 'always asking' and 'never asking'.

I suppose it's partly due to being fairly consistent in the ones I use, and them gradually getting to recognise me by sight.

I still do try to keep my certificate up to date though, just in case I need something while elsewhere.
Mike

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #5 on: 06 April 2017, 12:34:41 PM »
Point is Mike - they are renewable like they're doing us a favour (which of course they are I spose) but to then fine you, when you forget to renew, is a bit much.  I did it myself years and years ago when I didn't use a small pharmacy (used the one in the huge Boots store in the centre of Brum - prime position and covered 3 sales floors then at least another one for stock, offices, staff facilities ..) however Boots recognised it would be renewed, just told me to renew it pdq because by the time it went through their system, it would be about a month before anything would get done with it anyway that would involve the re-imbursement process. 
Jenny

T1 DX 1972, pumping Novorapid 24/05/11

HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #6 on: 06 April 2017, 01:52:30 PM »
I've not bothered to renew mine as everyone gets free prescriptions in Scotland. The only thing I might need it for is a NHS voucher for an eye test / glasses.
DX Type I 1994.    Novorapid Animas Vibe pump
HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
Ramipril: 10mg Quetiapine: 550mg Metformin: 2000mg

Offline Dr DeEath

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #7 on: 06 April 2017, 04:26:10 PM »
Part of the modern world! They also fine you for taking children on holiday in term time, putting stuff in the wrong bin, etc. I had a BACS transfer delayed by an insurance company by a month which caused me a cash flow problem. No way could I get any compensation for their incompetence but if I renew a day late the policy would be cancelled and an administration fee charged. :(
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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #8 on: 06 April 2017, 04:36:12 PM »
I am horrified the Dad lost his case in the supreme court regarding taking children out of school in term time! Children learn so much from travelling to foreign places. Travel is one of those ways to mature a person that education can't give.

Medical Exemption Certificate... we have to renew it??

My chemist never asks for it but then I guess they know I'm diabetic. I shall have to check if it has a date on it!!
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Offline Pattidevans

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #9 on: 06 April 2017, 07:36:56 PM »
V, you will certainly be in the group of persons who could be caught out, so I suggest you do look at it and check it and apply for a renewal if necessary.

For Sedge and other T1s... no we will not be able to reverse T1, but T2s on meds also have exemption certs and they can and do come off meds in which case if they revert to D&E then they are NOT entitled to free prescriptions.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 April 2016.


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Offline sedge

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #10 on: 06 April 2017, 10:46:14 PM »
Well, true - but there again once they are no longer exempt, then they should immediately cancel the 'pass' - and one assumes are breaking the law if they don't.  If the NHS don't 'police' and enforce that - then they have no bloody business fining T1s !

IMHO, obviously LOL
Jenny

T1 DX 1972, pumping Novorapid 24/05/11

HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

Offline Pattidevans

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #11 on: 07 April 2017, 08:56:17 AM »
I don't remember exactly, but I do not think the certificate states type.  In any case the law says that it is incumbent upon the holder to renew it when it runs out.  Not doing so renders people to be liable for a fine... end of!    JDRF are merely trying to help make people aware.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 April 2016.


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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #12 on: 07 April 2017, 12:40:27 PM »
They only last about 5 years right? Been a long time so I might have that wrong.
DX Type I 1994.    Novorapid Animas Vibe pump
HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
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Offline Quantum Learning

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #13 on: 09 April 2017, 06:32:17 PM »
Just fished mine out and it is 5 years but the accompanying letter says they'll send a reminder when it's due for renewal.
Type 2 dx Nov 2012 with fasting BG 14%/129.5
HbA1c Jan 2013 79/9.3%
April 2013 50/6.7%
July 2013 39/5.7%
Oct 2013 39/5.7% Chol 5.9
July 2014 45/6.3% Chol 5.5
Aug 2015 61/7.7% Chol 5.9
May 2016 84/9.7% Chol 6.9
Oct 2016 53/7%  Chol 6.3
Dec 2016 41/5.9% Chol 6.0
June 2017 51/6.8% Chol 6.1
Oct 2017 52/6.9% Chol
Metformin SR 2000mg, Candesarten Cilexetil 4mg Omeprazole 20mg, Fexofenadine 180mg Co-Codamol 30/500g when needed. Amitriptyline 20mg
Toujeo/NovoRapid, Allergic to Levemir.

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Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
« Reply #14 on: 09 April 2017, 08:57:49 PM »
Just fished mine out and it is 5 years but the accompanying letter says they'll send a reminder when it's due for renewal.

no idea where mine is or when it runs out, and moved house at least 3-4 times in the last 5 years without letting them know so I won't get their reminder letter. Have been diagnosed 8-9 years now so hopefully it's not due to run out for a while yet.
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Lantus, Victoza and Apidra. Metformin XR, Bisoprolol (for SVT). Dexcom G4 with xdrip and nightscout.