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Offline Venomous

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Cramps, all over body cramps
« on: 22 April 2017, 08:39:41 PM »
I am just wondering if anyone else has had this symptom


I had cramps last night that were complete agony, (they werent just in my leg or of the type that are improved by massage and stretching) but covered the whole of my body for several hours, the pain was so bad I vomited and hubby said I looked like a sheet. I did wonder if it was my bp, because I felt really faint, but it literally felt like my bones were being twisted all over, hubby would try to rub my back and my neck, and my shoulders and legs would be cramping, so he'd try to rub my thighs and then my back would literally seize up. We tried hot towels, cold flannel, massage, walking up and down, stretching, everything we could think of...I eventually got some sleep flat on my back but kept waking to another cramp. I was begging hubby to help me, and he was like, "I don't know what to do for this! Tell me how to help!"


Could it be something to do with atorvastatin? I have been taking them again since I had the heart issues and the heart consultant insisted I should be on them. I haven't dared take it today.


Or maybe its to do with being away and exercising all week. Or maybe my ovarian problems.... Or hubby suggested electrolyte imbalance.


I am really really sore all over today, but mostly in my abdomen, feel like my body is contracting around my ovaries and over my stomach. I can't wait for them to sort these out properly.


Another possibility is anxiety as I have been worrying about number 2 daughter who is talking about living with her bf and I can just see them falling out in 40 yrs... dunno why I am so negative about it (though of course I haven't said anything about it) but I am feeling super concerned.


Perhas I am over dramatic but I was in a bad way last night! My bgs were normalish, being a little high then dropping to 5.7 in the night then rising to 7.7 by morning.
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Re: Cramps, all over body cramps
« Reply #1 on: 22 April 2017, 08:46:23 PM »
I'm sorry to say I can't offer any advice on what would cause this. It sounds horrid. I often get cramp in my feet and while it is painful it goes with massage. I'd guess it was something more global than normal cramps since it effected you pretty much everywhere. So the lack of q10 from statins or electrolyte imbalance sound most likely to me. You know it must be something like that to effect you so generally. Stress can do all sorts but this is a fairly unusual effect imo   
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Offline Dr DeEath

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Re: Cramps, all over body cramps
« Reply #2 on: 22 April 2017, 09:31:38 PM »
Because of the PAD I get frequent cramps in anywhere in my left leg (from thigh to toe). They are more frequent if my BG is below 4 or above ~12, or if I have walked more than usual. If I try and walk more (which is good for PAD) I get cramps both whilst walking and during the night (a sort of double whammy). All over cramps are usually caused by lack of certain minerals like potassium. This is often linked with liver problems. If it reoccurs you need to get it checked out.

The only other cause are certain obscure toxins but I think this can be discounted.
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Offline Pattidevans

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Re: Cramps, all over body cramps
« Reply #3 on: 23 April 2017, 08:49:53 AM »
It sounds horrible Venomous.  You must feel quite exhausted this morning.  I get quite nasty leg cramps sometimes, worst down the inside of the thighs (the other week I had sore muscles for days) - I am not on statins, but who knows they may be the cause of your cramp.  Another common cause is dehydration and lack of potassium so your hubby's guess is as good as any.  Interesting page here http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/muscle-cramp/symptoms-causes/dxc-20186052
Suggests diabetes can be a cause, but why it should be I have no idea.
However, none of us are Drs and if it happens again I suggest you go to see yours.


Hope there is no recurrence!
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Offline Paulines7

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Re: Cramps, all over body cramps
« Reply #4 on: 23 April 2017, 02:11:11 PM »
I am sorry to hear about the cramps you experienced.  I think you should see your GP who could organise blood tests to see if you are deficient in anything.

What dose of atorvastatin are you on? 

I was on a very high dose of Simvastatin (80mg) for about 15 years and when I was sent to the hospital because I was retaining sodium and excreting potassium, the Consultant rectified the situation by putting me on a very low dose of atorvastatin and changing my water tablets.  I used to get cramps but only in my legs.  I have now taken myself off statins completely (with my GP's agreement) after having read this report:  http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1586/17512433.2015.1011125  This report was free when I downloaded it but I can copy it to you if you pm me with your private email address. 

Since reading it, I have been taking Enzyme Q10 and selenium supplements.  My heart failure has improved (I no longer get out of breath) and I have been discharged from the Heart Failure Clinic. I cannot recommend that you stop taking your statins as it is a decision only you can make. 

I do hope you do not get any more of these cramps but I do think your GP should organise blood tests so you know what you are dealing with.

 
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Offline Venomous

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Re: Cramps, all over body cramps
« Reply #5 on: 23 April 2017, 03:25:01 PM »
Thank you I do have appointment to see GP tomorrow so I'll mention the cramps then. I am still sore now but much improved. I am much happier doddering round at home getting washing done than anywhere else really. I do think I may have been dehydrated as my urine was very dark and had been feeling thirsty all week but had just put that down to bgs being a little off while we were away.

I was taking 20mg of atorvastatin.. honestly haven't dared since those cramps, I was kinda convinced I was for it!!
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Offline sedge

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Re: Cramps, all over body cramps
« Reply #6 on: 23 April 2017, 04:23:37 PM »
I'm wondering about the diltiazem and whether the cramp has anything to do with hardening of the arteries, ie like PAD but worse?

However after MkI had his slipped disc/sciatica which was trapped so badly one of his legs was wasting away so they performed a laminectomy which fortunately worked - he had terrible 'cramp' in the leg for years.  That didn't respond to anything - he just had to endure the agony until it wore off.  It didn't respond because it wasn't actually lack of blood flow - it was his sciatic nerves and all their little branches recovering, ie neuropathy, but only affecting THAT one nerve specifically.

I definitely think yours needs investigating V - and PDQ frankly.
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Offline Quantum Learning

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Re: Cramps, all over body cramps
« Reply #7 on: 25 April 2017, 12:56:35 PM »
That sounds really awful V, glad you're feeling a bit better now. From what I've read I would be blaming the statins too, unfortunately in my own personal experience the NHS don't really understand pain & so seem very blase about it. Can't tell you how many times I've wished I could give someone a little 'blast' of how much pain I'm in, love to see their faces  ;) I hope you don't get a recurrence of these cramps but hopefully now you're not taking the statins you won't  :)
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Offline Pattidevans

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Re: Cramps, all over body cramps
« Reply #8 on: 25 April 2017, 01:27:49 PM »
FWIW it may not work for you, but often a teaspoon of ordinary table salt (vile as it is to ingest) relieves my leg cramps quite quickly.
Patti


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