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Offline Paulines7

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T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« on: 19 June 2017, 11:23:24 AM »
I was sent the link below from the Diabetes UK website.  It seems that research has shown that insulin resistance in Type2 diabetics is linked to bacteria in the mucus that lines the colon.  I don't want to wait several years until medication is available from the NHS so I have decided to try Bimuno which is a pre biotic powder.  I have not gone for the free trial of this product as companies often charge people for follow on samples even when they don't want it.  (I know from experience when dealing with a company supplying raspberry keytones). 

I have sent off for 2 x 30 days of Bimuno powders at a cost of £17.98 and will let you know how I get on.

Here is the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/news/2017/may/gut-bacteria-invading-colon-lining-linked-to-type-2-diabetes-91689593.html?utm_source=Communicator&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=Untitled26&utm_campaign=Defying+diabetes%2c+a+new+vaccine%2c+and+nausea&utm_dispatch%20ID=5493756&utm_email%20name=DCUK+NL+-+01%2f06%2f17

Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

Offline Pattidevans

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #1 on: 19 June 2017, 11:33:31 AM »
Pauline


Just to clarify, that site has nothing to do with DiabetesUK the charity, but is a commercial site.


However someone on their forum gave the powder a good rating.  I should be interested to know how you get on with it.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 April 2016.


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Offline Paulines7

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #2 on: 19 June 2017, 12:37:28 PM »
I didn't realise that it was a commercial site as they call themselves "Diabetes.co.uk".  I started getting emails from them a while back and just assumed it was "Diabetes UK".
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #3 on: 19 June 2017, 04:33:01 PM »
If you are getting emails it probably means you have joined their forum at some point.  The charity is diabetes.org.uk
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 April 2016.


© 2015 Patti Evans

Offline Venomous

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #4 on: 20 June 2017, 06:23:16 PM »
Very interested to hear how you get on with it! Hope it's good!
T2 and PCOS. Just had large serous adenofibroma removed with ovary and fallopian tube. Bp is now normal!

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #5 on: 20 June 2017, 08:22:54 PM »
It does seem to be one of the current theories. I'm sure we will find gut bacteria is linked to lots of things, just which bacteria and which things are a bit unknown yet. I'll be interested in your findings. 
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HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #6 on: 02 July 2017, 11:02:39 AM »
Just an update as I have been on Bimuno for ten days now.  My bg readings are the same as they always are, but I have lost 4lbs in weight!   

I feel slimmer and far less bloated now.  I wish I had taken my waist measurement prior to starting on these powders so I could see exactly how many inches I have lost.  My clothes feel looser though, so something is happening.   ;D   ;D   ;D
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #7 on: 02 July 2017, 04:40:51 PM »
exciting!
T2 and PCOS. Just had large serous adenofibroma removed with ovary and fallopian tube. Bp is now normal!

Novorapid, levemir, trulicity, metformin.

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #8 on: 02 July 2017, 06:11:15 PM »
Blimey! - that's brill, Pauline!

Is it just the body first getting rid of water, as per normal diets?
Jenny

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HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

Offline Pattidevans

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #9 on: 02 July 2017, 06:54:08 PM »
Sounds fantastic.  Do let me know if the weight loss continues, cos I may have to get some.  I hereby appoint you DSF official reviewer for Bimuno.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 April 2016.


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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #10 on: 03 July 2017, 01:43:01 AM »

Is it just the body first getting rid of water, as per normal diets?

Probably, but then I do carry a lot of water so if I get rid of some, it's not a bad thing.  It's not a diet though but just increases the beneficial bifidobacteria in the colon and in doing so, reduces bloating.

I was in hospital a few years back with a pericardial effusion and had to undergo treatment to drain fluid from around my heart and lungs.  They had no idea in the hospital what the cause of it was, but they changed my diuretics. Unfortunately the 2 pints of fluid they extracted was thrown away so they couldn't test it. They said it could have been caused by an infection. 

When I was due to be discharged, the cardiac consultant came to see me.  He patted my belly and from the sound it made, he said it was full of water.  One of my heart muscles is weak, (they said this was heart failure) and I was told that my heart was struggling to rid my body of extra fluid. My kidneys have also degenerated. I blame my heart failure and kidney problems on the high dose of statins (80mg Simvastatin) that were prescribed for me over a period of about fifteen years.  I was also on a diuretic that built up high sodium levels and depleted my body of potassium.   

Patti, I am hoping that I carry on losing weight.  Even the small amount I have lost already is making me feel fitter and I have a lot more energy.



Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #11 on: 03 July 2017, 11:03:49 AM »
I realised it wasn't a 'diet' Pauline, I just meant 'what most weight loss regimes do to begin with'.

I think it's really really interesting, cos such a lot of things are turning out to be down to gut bacteria, whether lack thereof or too much of something - so I look forward to hearing progress reports!
Jenny

T1 DX 1972, pumping Novorapid 24/05/11

HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #12 on: 03 July 2017, 11:51:56 AM »
I really hope you do lose more weight Pauline, it would be wonderful (and I would  buy some then!  LOL!)
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 April 2016.


© 2015 Patti Evans

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #13 on: 05 July 2017, 11:01:28 AM »
I will keep you all informed. 

Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: T2 Diabetes and gut bacteria Bimuno
« Reply #14 on: 10 July 2017, 10:56:01 AM »
I lost another ½ lb but have come to a standstill now.  Even so, I am pleased with the 4½ lbs total loss so far as I haven't been dieting.   I only need to lose just over 1 lb to leave the 15 stone + band behind and get down to the 14 stone + band, a target I have been aiming towards for a long time now.
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017.  Pacemaker fitted 2008.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"