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Offline Pattidevans

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Re: Sweets
« Reply #15 on: 18 December 2017, 12:45:55 PM »
They ought to allow them in hand luggage as they only contain 66ml... but I have never put it to the test Pauline.  Other than that I'd put them with my toiletries in my suitcase (whole toilet bag tightly wrapped in a plastic bag.
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Re: Sweets
« Reply #16 on: 05 February 2018, 12:27:14 PM »
I was in Waitrose last week and found some Sulá sugar free "Sweet liquorice" in the form of gums.  I haven't eaten liquorice for 4 years as it contains sugar so I was really pleased to find these. 

They also had some Sulá soft gums but they were not as tasty as the liquorice. 

Both products were £1.79 for 75g, which I thought was very expensive.  I will be buying the liquorice ones again but will try to make them last longer next time!

I have just searched for Sulá on Amazon and find that they also do liquorice boiled sweets in multi packs so I will try some of those too.
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017. 47 Feb 2018  Pacemaker fitted 2008 - replaced 2017.

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Re: Sweets
« Reply #17 on: 05 February 2018, 02:22:29 PM »
Holland and Barrett do all the Sula sweets at 99p fir 42g which works out about the same price, but sometimes they are in the penny Sale so you get 2 boxes for £1
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Offline Paulines7

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Re: Sweets
« Reply #18 on: 06 February 2018, 12:44:54 AM »
Thanks for the tip, Patti, I will look out for those penny sales when I go to Salisbury again.
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When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Sweets
« Reply #19 on: 06 February 2018, 01:11:37 PM »
Maybe I will look at the new ones (to me) mentioned. I have not eaten/sucked any sugar free sweets/chocolate (bar cough lozenges) for decades. My bad memories goes back to the sixties when I was often given then for Christmas and ended up sitting on the loo!  :) TBH back then Boots sold pretty appalling diabetic products!
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Re: Sweets
« Reply #20 on: 06 February 2018, 01:44:35 PM »
I am lucky because I can have quite a few sugar free sweets and they don't affect my stomach too much apart from making me more regular.  I shouldn't have problems as over half the plate for my evening meal contains brassicas!

The liquorice boiled sweets came today... all 14 boxes of them.  I hope they will last for several months though.  I have also ordered some pear drops, liquorice toffees and mixed toffees so I am well set up for the year. 
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017. 47 Feb 2018  Pacemaker fitted 2008 - replaced 2017.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Sweets
« Reply #21 on: 06 February 2018, 08:36:07 PM »
I was in Waitrose last week and found some Sulá sugar free "Sweet liquorice" in the form of gums.  I haven't eaten liquorice for 4 years as it contains sugar so I was really pleased to find these. 

They also had some Sulá soft gums but they were not as tasty as the liquorice. 

Both products were £1.79 for 75g, which I thought was very expensive.  I will be buying the liquorice ones again but will try to make them last longer next time!

I have just searched for Sulá on Amazon and find that they also do liquorice boiled sweets in multi packs so I will try some of those too.
I've found many sweets are misleading, see my old post here: It Must Be OK - It's Sugar-Free! Wrong!

I looked up the nutrition for Sulá sugar free "Sweet liquorice". Those gums are 77% carbohydrate from the starch ingredients. I hope this doesn't disappoint too much. But each 2gm gum is only 1.5 gms carb so it will depend on how many you eat.

Ingredients.
 (Maltitol Syrup, Steviol Glycosides), Modified Starch (Potato, Maize), Gelling Agent (Gum Arabic), Liquorice Extract (6,9%), Ammonium Chloride, Natural Flavouring, Coconut Oil, Glazing Agent (Carnauba Wax)

Nutrition[/t][/t][/t]
Typical values
per 100g
per sweet (2g)
Energy
935kJ
19 kJ
224kcal
4 kcal
Fat
0,2g
<0,1 g
Of which Saturates
0,2g
<0,1 g
Carbohydrate
77g
1,5 g
Of which Sugars
<0,5g
<0,1 g
Of which Polyols
63g
1,3 g
Fibre
6,3g
0,1 g
Protein
0,4g
<0,1 g
Salt
0,09g
<0,01 g
  [/td][/tr][/table]
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Re: Sweets
« Reply #22 on: 06 February 2018, 08:46:24 PM »
I've been doing a bit of reading and Maltitol seems to be one of the sugar alcohols that does effect BGs a bit. I'd not like to say for sure how it will raise BGs. I've not tested it myself. They are still fairly low carb so maybe you'd not notice that much of a rise? think it is likely to get a licorice like texture that they use it and the potato starch.
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Re: Sweets
« Reply #23 on: 06 February 2018, 09:34:50 PM »
A point I should have made. I think you will find the carb count of ordinary liquorice gums much the same.
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Re: Sweets
« Reply #24 on: 06 February 2018, 11:36:17 PM »
I do not eat a lot of sugar free sweets at all, but I am on a medication that gives me a dry mouth.  I have a small pack of sugar free sweets in my handbag.  About 2 or 3 a day are fine for me when I am desperate for some lubrication in the mouth.
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Re: Sweets
« Reply #25 on: 07 February 2018, 06:39:02 PM »
Thank you for your post, Alan. 

The carbs in 100g of liquorice gums are 77g of which 63g are polyols.  According to websites I found when Googling polyols, it seems they are incompletely digested and do not cause sudden increases in blood sugar levels. This is confirmed in this link:

https://caloriecontrol.org/polyols-gastrointestinal-gi-effects/

Where do you get the information that the liquorice gums are 77% carbohydrate from the starch ingredients, please?  On the website it doesn't say how much maize starch there is, so I have assumed that it is 14g in 100g?  I subtracted the polyols (sweeteners) from the total carb figure of 77g.  If I do the same with the figures, one sweet is 0.2g of carbs that would be digested. 

Liam's post at the beginning of this thread, in reply to my question about the carbs in Werther's Original sugar free toffees was; "The sweeteners are chemically carbohydrates but our bodies can't break them down into glucose."  I decided to test and the toffees did not raise my bg levels at all.

I suppose I should have tested when I ate the liquorice gums as they were new to me, but they have all gone now. 

The boiled liquorice sweets have even more carbs shown.  They are 93g per 100g of which 92g are polyols.  Per sweet the carbs that would be digested are 0.032.  When I have my next one, I will test though. 


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                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Sweets
« Reply #26 on: 07 February 2018, 06:47:36 PM »
The trouble with polyols is that they don't all come down to 0 carbs. Some of them are digestible to 25% or 30% of their reported carb value, at least for some people. I always find it so confusing to try and work out a carb count accurate enough that I can dose insulin, that I prefer to just avoid them! But obviously for people who don't take insulin it's not the same perspective or the same needs.
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Re: Sweets
« Reply #27 on: 07 February 2018, 10:01:09 PM »
Thank you for your post, Alan. 

The carbs in 100g of liquorice gums are 77g of which 63g are polyols.  According to websites I found when Googling polyols, it seems they are incompletely digested and do not cause sudden increases in blood sugar levels. This is confirmed in this link:

https://caloriecontrol.org/polyols-gastrointestinal-gi-effects/

Where do you get the information that the liquorice gums are 77% carbohydrate from the starch ingredients, please?  On the website it doesn't say how much maize starch there is, so I have assumed that it is 14g in 100g?  I subtracted the polyols (sweeteners) from the total carb figure of 77g.  If I do the same with the figures, one sweet is 0.2g of carbs that would be digested. 

Liam's post at the beginning of this thread, in reply to my question about the carbs in Werther's Original sugar free toffees was; "The sweeteners are chemically carbohydrates but our bodies can't break them down into glucose."  I decided to test and the toffees did not raise my bg levels at all.

I suppose I should have tested when I ate the liquorice gums as they were new to me, but they have all gone now. 

The boiled liquorice sweets have even more carbs shown.  They are 93g per 100g of which 92g are polyols.  Per sweet the carbs that would be digested are 0.032.
Apologies; I guessed about starches based on the ingredients list.
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When I have my next one, I will test though.
Wise idea :). I'll be interested to read your report.
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Re: Sweets
« Reply #28 on: 11 February 2018, 11:56:58 AM »
I am getting short of test strips at the moment so I have had to limit my testing.  However, here are the results from yesterday.

At 10am, an hour after a breakfast of avocado pear with full fat cottage cheese, I was 8.5.  At 1 pm I was 7.1 and then had some of the liquorice boiled sweets (probably about 3 of them).  An hour later I was 6.2.  I couldn't test at 2 hours after eating the sweets as I had my lunch just after testing at 2pm.

I will do some more tests later when I have some more strips, but at this stage it seems they are lowering my bg levels rather than raising them or at least not having any effect at all.
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017. 47 Feb 2018  Pacemaker fitted 2008 - replaced 2017.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Sweets
« Reply #29 on: 11 February 2018, 08:16:44 PM »
I am getting short of test strips at the moment so I have had to limit my testing.  However, here are the results from yesterday.

At 10am, an hour after a breakfast of avocado pear with full fat cottage cheese, I was 8.5.  At 1 pm I was 7.1 and then had some of the liquorice boiled sweets (probably about 3 of them).  An hour later I was 6.2.  I couldn't test at 2 hours after eating the sweets as I had my lunch just after testing at 2pm.

I will do some more tests later when I have some more strips, but at this stage it seems they are lowering my bg levels rather than raising them or at least not having any effect at all.

Great results. I reckon three (4.5gm CHO) would have little effect regardless of sugar or sweetener content.
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