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Offline colette3

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Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« on: 08 January 2018, 11:00:04 AM »
Hello.   My mouth is driving me mad with heat and bitter tastes and has done for a month or so now.  I may be barking up the wrong tree entirely now but in time frame this all stems from a horrible throat infection I had in September.  I had a hefty dose of antibiotics (hadn't had one for 25 years before this) which didn't really do much for the throat until the last minute.  Whilst I was taking the horrible things I was getting tastes in my mouth but this stopped when I found I had Oral thrush, not surprisingly after so many antibiotics.  After that I had a brief remission from the bitter/metallic/yukky tastes and in the last month they have returned.  I had gone to the doc when this all started (the tastes that is) and she gave me Lansoprazole which when I researched seemed to be for the treatment of GERD.  Well if GERD can be absolutely symptomless (and thats after a slightly more carby Christmas when I would expect to have at least one bout of heartburn).  So I don't think that's it.

Has anyone experienced this?  I would rather not add another 'syndrome' to the list!  Its worse first thing in the morning and I find that when I put in my dentures it improves.  I also have been suffering at the same time with a runny nose, Post Nasal Drip and sneezing.  I am taking Pirateze (all my own diagnoses - rightly or wrongly) - but that's not doing a lot yet.  I know I don't have thrush anymore.

Anyone suffered this?   Thanks

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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #1 on: 08 January 2018, 12:02:37 PM »
It might be catarrh.  That can leave a nasty taste in your mouth.
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #2 on: 08 January 2018, 12:30:59 PM »
I would expect the post-nasal drip is connected in some way. Given everything you describe it does sound like some kind of bacterial activity in the mouth. Of course we all do have mouth bacteria normally but I imagine that just like with gut bacteria it can get out of balance and the "wrong" types can overgrow the others. In your case it might be bacteria from the nose coming down or maybe it's some kind of bacterial infection that's causing the nose and the mouth issues at the same time. Maybe the throat infection wasn't entirely cleared by the antibiotics (symptoms subsided towards the end, but it usually takes a few more days of antibiotics past when symptoms are over to fully clear an infection).

I know you said you have dentures, so I expect chewing gum is out, but if you want to try it, sugar-free chewing gum with xylitol is known to actually be anti-bacterial. Another thing you might try is brushing the rest of your mouth with regular toothpaste at night (like the roof of your mouth, your tongue, etc.) above and beyond what you use to clean your dentures, see if that helps at all. Mouthwash might also be a possibility but many people find that to be harsh and irritating or even damaging to the soft tissues in the mouth so don't overdo it! And make sure you're getting more water than you feel like you need, often dry mouth can contribute to irritation and bad tastes.

But I suspect the source of the taste isn't in your mouth at all but in your nose and throat. Any chance you can get referred to an ORL (nose and throat specialist)?
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #3 on: 08 January 2018, 02:34:18 PM »
I take the max dose of esomeprazole ( 20 mg twice daily ) and If i miss a dose within a few hours i will get a "bitter" taste and a warm sensation in my throat.
I am diagnosed with GERD and Hiatus Hernia

Have you ever been for an endoscopy to discover if there is perhaps an issue in the esophagus region ?
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #4 on: 08 January 2018, 04:54:35 PM »
Thank you everyone.  At the time I had the throat infection I also had swollen glands which really didn't go down for quite a while.  Once that happened the doc was happy with things and that was the end of that.  My huge problem is that I go to Spain for 2 months on Saturday.  I have no choice in that one and I am hoping that it might just go whilst I am there, so going to see a specialist is sort of out of the question.  Went to Tesco today and got Sudafed tablets.  Thought I would give it a try.  It was all a bit of a waste of money because when you go to the inside instructions they say not to take them unless you have all the symptoms.  That is you have to have a cold or flu - if not don't take them.  I don't have either.  The taste and discomfort comes from the tip of my tongue which is constantly red.  My nose runs and I sneeze a lot.  Its all a mystery to me but I will take the advice I can and then pray a little because I'm so fed up of it.

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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #5 on: 08 January 2018, 05:35:06 PM »
Have you shown the doc your tongue? Because that sounds like it might be an infection of its own, quite apart from the throat infection, and having treated one does not equate to treating the other! Certainly if it's at the tip of your tongue and not the back of your throat then it's likely got nothing to do with postnasal drip, the glands in your neck, or GERD; hopefully the doc would recognize that much!
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #6 on: 08 January 2018, 05:43:56 PM »
I'm wondering if it is part of oral thrush? Maybe the treatment for that took the white yucky stuff away but left a sore? I really don't know enough to be sure. 
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #7 on: 08 January 2018, 08:22:38 PM »
hi colette-- the tongue symptoms in no way match any of mine
perhaps as liam has suggested -- back to the infection drawing board
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #8 on: 08 January 2018, 09:08:11 PM »
Maybe you still have some oral thrush Colette ? It can be really difficult to shift. I'd go back to the doc and either get a test for it or some more meds. When I had oral thrush a couple of years ago Nystan didn't work properly and so I had to go on a two week course of Flucanozole (Diflucan) which finally killed the thrush two days before the end of the course - I could tell becasue then the horrible bitter metallic taste finally went awy.
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #9 on: 08 January 2018, 10:34:06 PM »
Well I have had a good day really trying to get to grips with this.  So far, Burning mouth syndrome, and a list of other things I cant be bothered listing and I do think its possible it could be any of them.  There are quite a few problems like this and a lot of similarities between them all.  I have been thinking of oral thrush for ages now but I have been told I haven't got it and the doctor wouldn't even consider giving me more Nystan (I got two bottles of this from the doc which didn't clear it at all.  I got onto one of those Pharmacies online where I thought I could get it but all that happened is that they said they could not give me it and told me to go back to my doctor.

I've read about Silent Reflux because I am absolutely sure I haven't got GERD.  I'm maybe not so sure it isn't Silent Reflux but some weeks ago I got some pH strips and I test frequently (only because of this problem, not because I'm a complete hypochondriac) and it is perfect - 7 for saliva, 6 for urine so I don't think I could have oesophageal acid damage.

My problem now is that I have only a few days before Spain.  Doubt if I could get a prescription for Nystan and even if I got an appointment I don't think they would agree that I still have Thrush.  However, I have a wonderful pharmacist in Spain who normally gives me what I need, and certainly hasn't killed me yet.  nce again thanks all.  You have sort of suggested something I was thinking of myself.  Is there anything I can get thats not on prescription?

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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #10 on: 08 January 2018, 10:50:07 PM »
Aren't there some over the counter thrush remedies?  One includes a pill if I recall correctly.  Sorry too late to google as I have a hospital appointment at crack of dawn tomorrow.
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #11 on: 09 January 2018, 10:06:16 AM »
Thanks Patti.  I hope your hospital appointment went well.  I have decided to go to surgery this morning and try for a GP appointment.  If I cant get an appointment I will go to Pharmacy. 

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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #12 on: 09 January 2018, 03:46:38 PM »
Hope you got an appointment Colette.

I'm to have an abdominal scan.  Much less unpleasant than a colonoscopy.  As it happens tummy probs settled down beginning of Dec and all has been normal since then, but they just want to make sure.
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Re: Very annoying heat and tastes in my mouth!
« Reply #13 on: 10 January 2018, 10:03:36 AM »
Well saw Nurse today.  No doc appointments.  Having looked at my notes she said it was more than likely that I still have thrush.  She felt that medication for oral thrush is notorious for 'leaving bits behind'.  So, Daktarin, for as long as it takes (and it could take a while).  She thinks my flora is out of balance (no sh*t Sherlock!).  I started back on my probiotics yesterday!  Also told me to eat pineapple.  The 'fruit is full of fructose' didn't seem to go down well with her and I was told to forget about the diabetes and to eat a little bit of pineapple every day.  So all in all a good appointment.  Nice to know my instincts (and your instincts ) were correct.   The next trick is to act on them and trust them.  Thank you all.  Now I can go to Spain without my overly-fertile imagination causing me to overthink.  I can be incredibly stupid at times.

Glad your appointment was good Patti (even though you feel the problem had eased off).  No harm at all making sure.

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« Reply #14 on: 10 January 2018, 12:19:52 PM »
Phew... glad you have got it sorted before you go off to Spain!
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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