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Offline Avocado

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #15 on: 07 February 2018, 02:34:38 PM »
I am making my way through the videos on the website (the Dr's page).  I have known of Dr Unwin for quite a long time.  I'm pondering a way to get the nurse to look at it (although she does generally advise not too many carbs),  The trouble is that as far as I can tell they don't have internet access in the surgery and they don't want to know in their own time.
I am thinking of contacting Dr Unwin, find out if they have hand outs we might be able to obtain. He's on Twitter: https://twitter.com/lowcarbGP
Anne

Atypical Type 2, thin, not insulin resistant, diagnosed March 2007. Very low carb (30 - 50g per day) Paleo diet and exercise - Prandin (Repaglinide) 0.5mg. Aortic Valve Replacement Jan 2014, Osteoporosis, Small airways disease, probable coeliac - Strontium Ranelate 2g/d, Omacor 2g/d, vitamin K2 300mcg/d, Aviticol (vit D3) 20,000 IU every week, Qvar 100 2/day.

Current HbA1c 33 Current total cholesterol 7, HDL 3.5, LDL 3.2, triglycerides 0.4

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #16 on: 08 February 2018, 07:02:36 PM »
Please let us know if he does have leaflets.  I would be keen on getting some.
Patti


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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #17 on: 08 February 2018, 09:16:16 PM »
Hi Patti - I tweeted Dr Unwin and he suggested I have a look at this website https://phcuk.org which seems to have some downloadable/printable info and posters. Mind you, the https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto has some lovely illustrations, but presumably we can't download them.
Anne

Atypical Type 2, thin, not insulin resistant, diagnosed March 2007. Very low carb (30 - 50g per day) Paleo diet and exercise - Prandin (Repaglinide) 0.5mg. Aortic Valve Replacement Jan 2014, Osteoporosis, Small airways disease, probable coeliac - Strontium Ranelate 2g/d, Omacor 2g/d, vitamin K2 300mcg/d, Aviticol (vit D3) 20,000 IU every week, Qvar 100 2/day.

Current HbA1c 33 Current total cholesterol 7, HDL 3.5, LDL 3.2, triglycerides 0.4

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #18 on: 09 February 2018, 09:54:51 AM »
Avocado, the "diet doctor" sites are brilliant.  I spent a long time reading those when you posted the links in your post of 6th February on this thread.  They have some lovely recipes.

Thanks so much for posting them. 
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017. 47 Feb 2018  Pacemaker fitted 2008 - replaced 2017.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #19 on: 09 February 2018, 03:35:50 PM »
Oh my goodness, I've just looked at the recipes on the Diet Doctor link & I wouldn't know where to start, they're fantastic, thanks Anne  ;D
Type 2 dx Nov 2012 with fasting BG 14%/129.5
HbA1c Jan 2013 79/9.3%
April 2013 50/6.7%
July 2013 39/5.7%
Oct 2013 39/5.7% Chol 5.9
July 2014 45/6.3% Chol 5.5
Aug 2015 61/7.7% Chol 5.9
May 2016 84/9.7% Chol 6.9
Oct 2016 53/7%  Chol 6.3
Dec 2016 41/5.9% Chol 6.0
June 2017 51/6.8% Chol 6.1
Oct 2017 52/6.9%
Jan 2018 51/6.8% Chol 5.9
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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #20 on: 09 February 2018, 03:53:42 PM »
I think it’s the forum that needs thanks as I only discovered that website after asking the original question that I started the thread with, getting replies and thinking, thinking, thinking, and getting a light bulb moment and then discovering that wonderful website as a result. I think the illustrations on the website are fantastic and amazingly effective. What about the ‘Visual keto guides’, especially the ‘How many carbs ?’ one here: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/20-50-how-much  Very cleverly done.
Anne

Atypical Type 2, thin, not insulin resistant, diagnosed March 2007. Very low carb (30 - 50g per day) Paleo diet and exercise - Prandin (Repaglinide) 0.5mg. Aortic Valve Replacement Jan 2014, Osteoporosis, Small airways disease, probable coeliac - Strontium Ranelate 2g/d, Omacor 2g/d, vitamin K2 300mcg/d, Aviticol (vit D3) 20,000 IU every week, Qvar 100 2/day.

Current HbA1c 33 Current total cholesterol 7, HDL 3.5, LDL 3.2, triglycerides 0.4

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« Reply #21 on: 09 February 2018, 06:33:32 PM »
Anne ~ Thank you for sharing the link for dietdoctor.  It easily explains things like the variance in carbs to a non diabetic.  Sometimes my husband doesn't understand why I avoid most breads.  This link is wonderful.  :)
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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #22 on: 10 February 2018, 06:28:45 AM »
I have come to realise that most leafy green veg is full of complex starches.

This is why ruminants eat grass to get at the cellulose which is a very long chain of glucose molecules stuck together.

The longer the chain, the more difficult it is to break down.
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Offline Quantum Learning

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #23 on: 10 February 2018, 01:35:32 PM »
I can't wait to try some of those recipes, garlic bread, pizza, meat pie etc. I've been getting a bit bored with my diet recently, same old meat/fish/veg/salad, all of it would taste better with some of their buttery sauces, yum  ;D
Type 2 dx Nov 2012 with fasting BG 14%/129.5
HbA1c Jan 2013 79/9.3%
April 2013 50/6.7%
July 2013 39/5.7%
Oct 2013 39/5.7% Chol 5.9
July 2014 45/6.3% Chol 5.5
Aug 2015 61/7.7% Chol 5.9
May 2016 84/9.7% Chol 6.9
Oct 2016 53/7%  Chol 6.3
Dec 2016 41/5.9% Chol 6.0
June 2017 51/6.8% Chol 6.1
Oct 2017 52/6.9%
Jan 2018 51/6.8% Chol 5.9
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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #24 on: 10 February 2018, 02:03:04 PM »
I've made those keto seed crackers in a similar recipe in Tim Noakes' cookery book 'The Real Meal Revolution' - everybody loves them. I'll try the keto garlic bread. Both recipes use ground psyllium husk which I bought from iherb.com - lasts ages as you don't use much - magic stuff. Also made some chapattis/puris with it mixed into mashed cauliflour and rolled and dusted with ground almonds, then dry fried - very good as it also gives extra veggies.
Anne

Atypical Type 2, thin, not insulin resistant, diagnosed March 2007. Very low carb (30 - 50g per day) Paleo diet and exercise - Prandin (Repaglinide) 0.5mg. Aortic Valve Replacement Jan 2014, Osteoporosis, Small airways disease, probable coeliac - Strontium Ranelate 2g/d, Omacor 2g/d, vitamin K2 300mcg/d, Aviticol (vit D3) 20,000 IU every week, Qvar 100 2/day.

Current HbA1c 33 Current total cholesterol 7, HDL 3.5, LDL 3.2, triglycerides 0.4

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #25 on: 11 February 2018, 11:32:21 AM »
Avocado, I thought I would buy some psyllium husks from Amazon as I need to order some other things from there.  However, there seems to be so many different types of psyllium husks for sale and I am not sure what to go for.  Some are blond, some raw and others can be fine ground.  In the answered questions regarding one of the products, a customer had said not to bake with it as that it turned the pastry pink/purple!  Perhaps he or she used too much!  Can you help me please?  Have you tried any from Amazon and were they as good as those you buy from iherb.com? 

Below is the Amazon site I have been looking on.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Ddrugstore&field-keywords=ground+psyllium+husk



Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017. 47 Feb 2018  Pacemaker fitted 2008 - replaced 2017.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #26 on: 11 February 2018, 12:05:20 PM »
Hi Pauline - I have pysllium husk powder made by 'Source Naturals' - I just chose the best value version. Looks like that's the same as ground. Nothing has ever gone pink or purple ! I can't imagine what that person did ! I would only stick to exactly the amount in the recipe, but even so pysllium can't go pink or purple as far as I know !

My DH used some when his tummy was upset, it has the same beneficial effect as the psyllium seeds that you get in fybogel, but oviously for cooking you need the powder or ground up version of the seeds without added sweeteners etc !


You'll find that whatever make of psyllium powder you buy they will have instructions for tummies, not for chefs :)
Anne

Atypical Type 2, thin, not insulin resistant, diagnosed March 2007. Very low carb (30 - 50g per day) Paleo diet and exercise - Prandin (Repaglinide) 0.5mg. Aortic Valve Replacement Jan 2014, Osteoporosis, Small airways disease, probable coeliac - Strontium Ranelate 2g/d, Omacor 2g/d, vitamin K2 300mcg/d, Aviticol (vit D3) 20,000 IU every week, Qvar 100 2/day.

Current HbA1c 33 Current total cholesterol 7, HDL 3.5, LDL 3.2, triglycerides 0.4

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #27 on: 11 February 2018, 07:01:43 PM »
Anne, thank you for your post.  I have found more replies in which people say their baking goes purple.  See: https://www.amazon.co.uk/ask/questions/Tx3S8MH9YUM2J9A/ref=ask_ql_ql_al_hza

I just went to order some Source Naturals pysllium husk powder from the iherb site but it is out of stock.  I put another brand in the basket to see what the costs are and it is £11.26 for shipping, so I don't think I will order from their site.

I have now settled on the one in the link below.  In the replies, people say it is very good for baking.  It is ground but not to a fine to a powder.  People use it in bread making, crackers and other low cab/keto recipes and it doesn't go purple.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Natural-Health-4-Life-Psyllium/dp/B00DEPIOR4/ref=sr_1_8_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1518289408&sr=8-8&keywords=psyllium+husk&dpID=51btgsj4hGL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Thanks for your help in this Anne.  I can't wait to try some of the recipes from the diet doctors site. 
Diabetes Type2 diagnosed March 2014.  Treated by diet only.  HbA1c 60 on diagnosis, 52 in June 2014, 50 October 2014, 44 December 2014, 48 May 2015, 50 Sep 2015, 53 Jan 2016, 50 Oct 2016, 56 Feb 2017, 50 Jun 2017. 50 Aug 2017. 47 Feb 2018  Pacemaker fitted 2008 - replaced 2017.

When I get old I don't want people thinking
                      "What a sweet little old lady"........
                             I want 'em saying
                    "Oh Crap! Whats she up to now ?"

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #28 on: 11 February 2018, 07:26:05 PM »
Hi Pauline - shipping from iHerb would only be £11.26 if you chose the default shipping - click to the left and you find shipping at around £1 or £2 ! I always choose the cheapest option and my order usually arrives within one to two weeks. Btw, if you ever want to order from iHerb and have never ordered from them before, you get money off with your first order by entering this coupon: BED356  But never order more than £15 worth of products at a time because UK customs will sting you for VAT on any orders over £15 (not including postage) and the post office will charge an £8 handling fee.

I just ordered a book by Dr Andreas Eenfeldt, the diet doctor, about Low Carb High Fat, I couldn't resist the cover picture: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Low-Carb-High-Food-Revolution/dp/1510713875/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1518376990&sr=1-1&keywords=andreas+eenfeldt&dpID=41yFu8QKHAL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch  Psst - it is cheaper from bookdepository.com
Anne

Atypical Type 2, thin, not insulin resistant, diagnosed March 2007. Very low carb (30 - 50g per day) Paleo diet and exercise - Prandin (Repaglinide) 0.5mg. Aortic Valve Replacement Jan 2014, Osteoporosis, Small airways disease, probable coeliac - Strontium Ranelate 2g/d, Omacor 2g/d, vitamin K2 300mcg/d, Aviticol (vit D3) 20,000 IU every week, Qvar 100 2/day.

Current HbA1c 33 Current total cholesterol 7, HDL 3.5, LDL 3.2, triglycerides 0.4

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Re: Veggies and complex carbs
« Reply #29 on: 11 February 2018, 08:24:28 PM »
I've never baked with mine, just used it in my psyllium/nuts/muesli mix. That has never changed colour regardless of storage time.

I'm surprised you can't buy it in your supermarkets or a health food store. Do you have those? Ours tend to be purveyors of bulk nuts and many products such as almond meal or flour, psyllium husks, dried fruits and berries etc etc. We have several chains, this is one local example: Healthy Life
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