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Research / Re: Type 2 Diabetes online survey
« Last post by katie.surrey on Today at 10:11:28 AM »
The survey is still open and will close in around a month, if anybody else still wishes to complete it :) Thank you very much.
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Introduce yourself / Re: Not obese -want to try Newcastle diet
« Last post by Pattidevans on Today at 09:20:54 AM »
I agree with what both Sedge and Nytquill say, that the results you mention fall into the “normal”range for a non-diabetic.  I just wanted to add that if you become too strict with your diet it’s almost certain to lead to burn out and eventually falling off the wagon.  Be a little kind to yourself as you have to keep up a way of eating for the rest of your life, not “just until” you’ve lost weight/achieved whatever goal you want because even if you do kick your diabetes into remission, it will still be there should you return to a high carb diet.


No one is telling you not to test, just not to obsess about numbers that fall into the normal range.  Do continue testing, but be reassured by those normal numbers.

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Thanks for the clarification Pauline.  I had the pubs muddled up. John is clearly a hero!
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Introduce yourself / Re: Not obese -want to try Newcastle diet
« Last post by J19821 on Today at 07:38:26 AM »
Dear Sedge and NyQuil

Thanks for the words of caution- it’s hard for me not to be obsessive about my bs numbers but I’ll take your advice and try! My goal is to get off my diabetes medicines whatever it takes and however long it takes. The modified Newcastle BS diet gave me hope and it does recommend testing and keeping track- and this also keeps me motivated. But I promise to focus more on weight and centimeters lost around abdomen - so far 2 kilos and 6 cms and 13 kilos and 16 cms more to go:-)
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Introduce yourself / Re: Not obese -want to try Newcastle diet
« Last post by nytquill17 on Yesterday at 08:58:48 PM »
While I don't at all wish to criticize you for being motivated to closely monitor your BGs and put significant effort into making changes that will help regulate them, I'm concerned that you are giving entirely too much weight to normal BG fluctuations, in terms of how much they seem to worry you and the efforts you are going to to try and respond to them.

BGs and FBGs will fluctuate normally day to day, hour to hour and even minute to minute in both diabetic and non-diabetic people. Plus any variation of 30 points or less (1.7 in UK numbers) falls within the known margin of error for home testing meters and is to be disregarded, i.e. not considered as meaningful change.

As Sedge has said, non-diabetic BGs range from 70-130 without their being any cause for concern. That is, the body is well able to deal with BGs that are within that range without any damage being caused, in fact it is quite *designed* to do so. In other words, a fasting or pre-meal reading of 96 is not better or worse than one of 72 in terms of its effects on the body, and not something that you need to go to any lengths (such as avoiding foods you enjoy) to control or "improve."

I'm not trying to say you shouldn't be disciplined in your diet or invested in your diabetes care - clearly you are, and clearly it's working for you so far! But I worry that these may also be signs that you are harbouring unrealistic expectations that will eventually come back to bite you, or living with a lot of worry and fear. Only you know what works best for you, though! And I'm glad that you are satisfied with the results thus far. In the end it's you that has to be happy with your life and with the various measurements of your current and future health, no one else!
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Introduce yourself / Re: Not obese -want to try Newcastle diet
« Last post by sedge on Yesterday at 05:05:18 PM »
That's not a spike, undiabetic people's BG range in between low 4s (72 ish) and mid 7s (126) so your 97 is just over 5, about 5.4, hence firmly and completely normal.

Here in the UK we measure BG in mmol/L, not mg/dL, so I've had to divide your numbers by 18 for them to make proper sense to me!

What we call a spike is when it shoots up from eg 5 (90) to 9+ (162) or from 7 to over 10.
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Other members will be very welcome, but the sooner they decide the better as Nick found out that many of the places for accommodation were booked!  If anyone else is interested in coming, please pm me. 

On the Friday evening, I thought we could eat at the Pelican Inn in Stapleford.  It is not far from where Nick and Pat are staying and about 2 miles from my home.  I will book it for 8 people when I am there on Monday and I can always add to it.  John has offered to go alcohol free that night and ferry us all to and from the Pelican. 

On the Saturday evening, I have booked the Boot Inn which is at the bottom of my drive. 

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Introduce yourself / Re: Not obese -want to try Newcastle diet
« Last post by J19821 on Yesterday at 10:20:08 AM »
I’m so grateful to all of you for your advice. I ordered 10 days supply of shakes but found they were too sweet for my taste and left me hungry after two hours. So I’ve gone back to real food. I’ve been on 8-900 calories for 10 days now. My fasting blood sugar was 72 mgdl yesterday - had steadily decreased - but today it spiked up to 97 mgdl today - ate a chocolate mint piece and delicious baked lemon ricotta yesterday! Learned my lesson!
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General discussion / Re: New blog from “our” Mike
« Last post by Pattidevans on Yesterday at 10:01:26 AM »
Most of the time really!
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General discussion / Re: HbA1c
« Last post by Pattidevans on Yesterday at 09:59:47 AM »
What Sedge said.  Far too often!  At least my surgery is a bit more proactive and they get a test kit.  How long they are allowed strips I am unsure, but they certainly push Statins.
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