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sedge:
Yes but surely it's 'symbolic' bread - like Communion wafers are? - and therefore a) of negligible carb content and b) surely you aren't required to eat whole loaves?  LOL

Lucy:
communion at church is a problem for me. maybe jewish people have similar issues of some sort.

i know its only a thimble full of full sugar ribena, and a corner of white bread, but i am always high after.

sedge:
Do you accept the 'host' into your hands Lucy or straight into your mouth? - think most RC and CofE churches use the hands method now, so if it's a big bit you don't actually need to consume all of it.  Plus coeliacs etc.

Bill Harborne:
I may be speaking out of turn here, but as an atheist I find this to be all mumbo jumbo, I respect religious peoples views up to a point but when they begin seperating themselves from others it annoys me somewhat, are we not all human beings? and diabetic ones at that. We might as well have diabetic groups dedicated to plumbers,dentists or aboriginal method actors. There is a feeling that the rest of us are not good enough (Particularly if we happen to be menstruating). Together as humans we are strong, why fractionalise the one thing we do all have in common, our diabetes.

sedge:
Well Bill .... it's like everything.

Now I think about it more, I can actually see a need for this where you have a population - for instance - where English isn't their first language.  Yes I get as annoyed as some others do that some of them don't take any steps to learn our language BUT if you think about it - if eg Pete and I decided to up sticks and go to live in eg France, although we have some French and it's on ongoing learning curve - I'd have great difficulty in discussing the subtle nuances of my dislike of statins to anyone who wasn't an English speaker.  It's not because I want to be marginalised, but if I found a branch of DFS or even DUK locally for ex-Pats then I might go.  A similar group might have helped Colette when she was trying to source Metformin SR at her home in Spain.  It's not because I would want to be marginalised - or that the infrastructure wanted to marginalise me - it's just more pragmatic, isn't it?  So if for instance a Sikh or Moslem person feels more comfortable discussing things at a meeting set up by the elders at their Temple where everyone in the room is wholly aware of why they might need to do this or that, or not eat this or that, or have to eat that or this on this particular day - and has anyone in the room found a work-around I could try? - then why not? - it's more important to faciltate assistance than not, for fear of upsetting someone else, isn't it?

And also - it's not all that long ago when the first trip a new mum made out of her house in public was at 1 week plus after the birth, when she attended Church in order to be Blessed and could thence resume her rightful place in society again.  There were special prayers said for both the mother and the baby.  And THAT was in the normal ordinary Methodist church which was not full of Bible thumpers.  But my mum would always say to us 'You have to come to Chapel with me on Sunday, because Mrs Bloggs' daughter is being Churched' - and we'd moan.  We'd already have been there after lunch for Sunday school, bor-ing to have to go there twice on one day!  So that had it's roots in the 'being unclean' business after the due and potentially medically dangerous process of childbirth - although it was always 'sold' as being for the mother and child's safety at large, to absolutely ensure they both had God's full protection along the High Street !

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