LOL - one of the GDs was whinging about her fat/flabby arms. She most likely is a bit overweight but she's only 16 - and she tends to be on the 'solid' side like her dad, whereas her older sister is like a lath (she's hardly anything like a duck, at 42 weeks preg!) just like their mother. So I showed her the arm exercise s we used to do 30 years ago at the gym - absolute killers, done to the 'cancan' hit record - remember how LONG that was!! Could never carry on to the end - but there again - that was everyone's target. She hated me - I told her they hurt, she thought I just meant 'now'. No - when I was younger and pretty fit too, mate!