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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #15 on: 26 June 2018, 09:13:20 PM »
In the literature you get for it they tell you to consider 4 points of info with every scan before making a treatment decision: the current reading number, the trend arrow, the verbal message if there is one, and the graph of your day to date. So officially the trend arrow IS supposed to be useful, I just find that it only really provides reliable info at the extremes (pointing straight up or straight down is a pretty safe bet). Or if the graph shows me clearly rising or falling - but then I can just look at the graph, the arrow isn't providing me with any additional info. And for that matter the arrow and the text message usually overlap (e.g. "glucose going high" + up arrow). I think the whole thing is just built for redundancies, the end result being: "take all the data into account and use your common sense like always!"
T1 DX 1995
Omnipod since 06/04/18 (Novorapid)
 
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"I suppose anyone can fall," said Shasta.
"I mean can you fall and get up again without crying, and mount again and fall again and yet not be afraid of falling?"
"I - I'll try," said Shasta.
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  ~-~-~-~
"There is no answer; seek it lovingly."

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #16 on: 26 June 2018, 09:19:31 PM »
P.S. Still love mine and will go into a deep despair if I ever have to stop using them, though! The graph alone is priceless.

I used to do more tracking on mine (carbs, insulin, etc.) before I got my pump. The Libre will only track insulin in increments of 0.5u so a bit useless for logging pump doses, and no point logging carbs twice in the Libre and the pump! If you use diasend to help you track, or to communicate with your clinic, you can upload both your Libre and your pump data and the software will put together a "compilation" page where you can see the data from both lined up. So as long as you've got it on one or the other machine it will come out in your records!

On the other hand I do find it helpful to sometimes just put a note of insulin or food (you can just check the box without entering an amount) just to visually mark on my daily graph on the Libre how long it's been since the last one. And of course if you're trying to prove that you make good use of a Libre in order to hopefully get them prescribed regularly then it probably does pay to be extra diligent on this point!
T1 DX 1995
Omnipod since 06/04/18 (Novorapid)
 
  ~-~-~-~
"If you can't ride, can you fall?"
"I suppose anyone can fall," said Shasta.
"I mean can you fall and get up again without crying, and mount again and fall again and yet not be afraid of falling?"
"I - I'll try," said Shasta.
  ~C.S. Lewis, The Horse and His Boy
  ~-~-~-~
"There is no answer; seek it lovingly."

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #17 on: 27 June 2018, 07:46:40 AM »
are people thinking this hypo prevention is being done in isolation ---with just a scan ?

remember that upon seeing that downward arrow above a hypo , i would use that information and base any decision upon the usual factors that we used before this technology existed........when did i last bolus , did i bolus too much , what activity have i been up to........and the big one -- testing my blood to make sure the libre is close to accurate.......................so for me i am finding that the predictive arrows do the job Libre says they do........

catching the pre-hypos also means carbs consumed is lower to treat
T1 Dia Aug 1972 -pumping omnipod since 29/09/15  Losartan 100mg , simvastatin 40mg,Furosemide 40mg, Omeprazole 80mg , Doxazosin 8mg
Hba1c - 06/2013 6.1 02/2014 43(6.1) 07/14 42(6.0) 08/14 40( 5.8 ) 12/14 39 (5.7) 08/15 41 ( 5.9) 10/15 44 ( 6.2 ) 03/16 49 (6.6)
cholesterol --nov 2011 4.3 june 2012 4.4 June 2013 4.1 Feb 2014 4.1 dec 14 4.5 oct 15 4.4
Dafne grad. necrobiosis lipoidica on legs
laser treatment on both eyes 2002 and 2012, injections left eye 3 , wearing Noctura mask since oct 2014

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #18 on: 27 June 2018, 12:25:15 PM »
Well if the downward arrow is above a hypo, then it's not really a pre-hypo, no? That would be an entirely different thing for me also. But if I was, say, 5.5 with a downward arrow, then as you say without further information I wouldn't assume that that was going to be a hypo in the future on the strength of the arrow alone, because another scan might very well give a different arrow. That's all I mean :)
T1 DX 1995
Omnipod since 06/04/18 (Novorapid)
 
  ~-~-~-~
"If you can't ride, can you fall?"
"I suppose anyone can fall," said Shasta.
"I mean can you fall and get up again without crying, and mount again and fall again and yet not be afraid of falling?"
"I - I'll try," said Shasta.
  ~C.S. Lewis, The Horse and His Boy
  ~-~-~-~
"There is no answer; seek it lovingly."

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #19 on: 28 June 2018, 07:23:48 AM »
this will give everyone a laugh

yesterday morning got up at 6:45 --- scanned 4.7 -- lovely..............

made a cup of coffee ... sat at PC and reviewed emails , looked at forum etc etc
tried to scan at about 8:15 -- reader would not turn on ... AT ALL --- DEAD

so i phoned libre cust service-- they were very good - new reader and replacement sensor being sent out -- but 3-5 working days---so i am meant to be on this 3 month trial and i am going to end up losing pretty much the whole second week of data

but then grumpy old Diabetic ( me -- LOL )  thought..................  I know -- i will put the Libre link app on my phone and start a new sensor
so that is what i did and was only out of action for about 90 minutes 
T1 Dia Aug 1972 -pumping omnipod since 29/09/15  Losartan 100mg , simvastatin 40mg,Furosemide 40mg, Omeprazole 80mg , Doxazosin 8mg
Hba1c - 06/2013 6.1 02/2014 43(6.1) 07/14 42(6.0) 08/14 40( 5.8 ) 12/14 39 (5.7) 08/15 41 ( 5.9) 10/15 44 ( 6.2 ) 03/16 49 (6.6)
cholesterol --nov 2011 4.3 june 2012 4.4 June 2013 4.1 Feb 2014 4.1 dec 14 4.5 oct 15 4.4
Dafne grad. necrobiosis lipoidica on legs
laser treatment on both eyes 2002 and 2012, injections left eye 3 , wearing Noctura mask since oct 2014

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #20 on: 28 June 2018, 10:23:47 AM »
Well done, i’d Be clueless with my phone.  It keeps telling me it’s full and to remove some apps.  Since I don’t use any of them I tried,but none of them are gone.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #21 on: 28 June 2018, 12:03:09 PM »
Good thinking, Paul!

Can't wait til we get the phone app over here (not approved yet for the US or Canada). Though I will need to buy a new phone when that happens!
T1 DX 1995
Omnipod since 06/04/18 (Novorapid)
 
  ~-~-~-~
"If you can't ride, can you fall?"
"I suppose anyone can fall," said Shasta.
"I mean can you fall and get up again without crying, and mount again and fall again and yet not be afraid of falling?"
"I - I'll try," said Shasta.
  ~C.S. Lewis, The Horse and His Boy
  ~-~-~-~
"There is no answer; seek it lovingly."

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #22 on: 29 June 2018, 08:27:58 AM »
Good thinking, Paul!

Can't wait til we get the phone app over here (not approved yet for the US or Canada). Though I will need to buy a new phone when that happens!

haha Nyt... you sound likeme..........I hate mobile phones.......my wife loves hers though and gets a new one every couple of years on contract.
so i just grabbed her last old one out of the old used phones drawer ( it is only about 3 years old ) bought a pay as you go sim card for £1 -zapped £10 credit on to it
sorted.....................

T1 Dia Aug 1972 -pumping omnipod since 29/09/15  Losartan 100mg , simvastatin 40mg,Furosemide 40mg, Omeprazole 80mg , Doxazosin 8mg
Hba1c - 06/2013 6.1 02/2014 43(6.1) 07/14 42(6.0) 08/14 40( 5.8 ) 12/14 39 (5.7) 08/15 41 ( 5.9) 10/15 44 ( 6.2 ) 03/16 49 (6.6)
cholesterol --nov 2011 4.3 june 2012 4.4 June 2013 4.1 Feb 2014 4.1 dec 14 4.5 oct 15 4.4
Dafne grad. necrobiosis lipoidica on legs
laser treatment on both eyes 2002 and 2012, injections left eye 3 , wearing Noctura mask since oct 2014

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #23 on: 29 June 2018, 12:07:34 PM »
Nice! I've had the same phone for 4 years now (was new top of the line when I got it...) and have never had a contract for it, always been on prepaid plans. It still works great so I've never felt the need to replace it (and as a perpetual student, the less I have to shell out, the better!). But it's just one model too old to run the near-field something something that's needed to scan the Libre. Not a problem for now though as you can't get the app here yet anyway!

Patti, if you have an iPhone, removing apps is pretty straightforward. Since you've had trouble, I assume you probably have some other model that I'm unfortunately less familiar with! But there should be some nice walkthroughs on the internet of how to delete apps if you still want to.
T1 DX 1995
Omnipod since 06/04/18 (Novorapid)
 
  ~-~-~-~
"If you can't ride, can you fall?"
"I suppose anyone can fall," said Shasta.
"I mean can you fall and get up again without crying, and mount again and fall again and yet not be afraid of falling?"
"I - I'll try," said Shasta.
  ~C.S. Lewis, The Horse and His Boy
  ~-~-~-~
"There is no answer; seek it lovingly."

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #24 on: 29 June 2018, 01:55:22 PM »
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Patti, if you have an iPhone, removing apps is pretty straightforward. Since you've had trouble, I assume you probably have some other model that I'm unfortunately less familiar with! But there should be some nice walkthroughs on the internet of how to delete apps if you still want to.
I'll google it when I have time Nyt.  It says "Delete" and all it does is delete all the updates that are on that app.  It's a Harrier Mini Android phone.   
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #25 on: 30 June 2018, 09:01:31 AM »
really pleased with the phone version of the libre reader -- it is loads quicker to move around the app ..... i have not gone onto the software on my pc to see if it automatically updates to the cloud from the phone but i shall check it out and let you all know......
T1 Dia Aug 1972 -pumping omnipod since 29/09/15  Losartan 100mg , simvastatin 40mg,Furosemide 40mg, Omeprazole 80mg , Doxazosin 8mg
Hba1c - 06/2013 6.1 02/2014 43(6.1) 07/14 42(6.0) 08/14 40( 5.8 ) 12/14 39 (5.7) 08/15 41 ( 5.9) 10/15 44 ( 6.2 ) 03/16 49 (6.6)
cholesterol --nov 2011 4.3 june 2012 4.4 June 2013 4.1 Feb 2014 4.1 dec 14 4.5 oct 15 4.4
Dafne grad. necrobiosis lipoidica on legs
laser treatment on both eyes 2002 and 2012, injections left eye 3 , wearing Noctura mask since oct 2014

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #26 on: 08 July 2018, 12:33:10 PM »
good news -- the cloud updates automatically.... so that means my hospital team can log in and see what i am up to pretty much live  :eek: :nurse:
T1 Dia Aug 1972 -pumping omnipod since 29/09/15  Losartan 100mg , simvastatin 40mg,Furosemide 40mg, Omeprazole 80mg , Doxazosin 8mg
Hba1c - 06/2013 6.1 02/2014 43(6.1) 07/14 42(6.0) 08/14 40( 5.8 ) 12/14 39 (5.7) 08/15 41 ( 5.9) 10/15 44 ( 6.2 ) 03/16 49 (6.6)
cholesterol --nov 2011 4.3 june 2012 4.4 June 2013 4.1 Feb 2014 4.1 dec 14 4.5 oct 15 4.4
Dafne grad. necrobiosis lipoidica on legs
laser treatment on both eyes 2002 and 2012, injections left eye 3 , wearing Noctura mask since oct 2014

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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #27 on: 09 July 2018, 01:11:25 PM »
Sounds perfect!
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Re: Freestyle Libre on Prescription
« Reply #28 on: 09 July 2018, 10:34:32 PM »
Sounds perfect!
true but maybe not true.... a lot depends on level of judgement..............
T1 Dia Aug 1972 -pumping omnipod since 29/09/15  Losartan 100mg , simvastatin 40mg,Furosemide 40mg, Omeprazole 80mg , Doxazosin 8mg
Hba1c - 06/2013 6.1 02/2014 43(6.1) 07/14 42(6.0) 08/14 40( 5.8 ) 12/14 39 (5.7) 08/15 41 ( 5.9) 10/15 44 ( 6.2 ) 03/16 49 (6.6)
cholesterol --nov 2011 4.3 june 2012 4.4 June 2013 4.1 Feb 2014 4.1 dec 14 4.5 oct 15 4.4
Dafne grad. necrobiosis lipoidica on legs
laser treatment on both eyes 2002 and 2012, injections left eye 3 , wearing Noctura mask since oct 2014