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Offline Chas C

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Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« on: 04 March 2018, 02:26:05 PM »
Just flown out of Heathrow Term 2 on 4th March.

They now have full scanners installed.

I declined to walk through the scanner but had gone through the metal detector and set it off with my pump and dexcom, they tried to tell me all was fine for the pump to go through the body scanner which I didn't accept. They then asked me to remove the pump and walk through the scanner, I said no to this as I could damage the cannula etc and did not believe they should ask for medical devices to be remove.

Up shot was I had to wait about 10 mins, got taken into a side room for a body exam which ended up being just a pat down. Then they walked me back to the security area and looked through my bags (just skimmed through with a swab). Then as I was clear I was let through.

It's about time the BDA cleared this with the CAA on airport security, it appears that the staff make it up on the day.




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Offline sedge

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #1 on: 04 March 2018, 06:17:26 PM »
Well some pump mfrs now say it's OK to go through the scanners - I haven't flown for years so I've not checked to see what's what.

A question - how the hell would you damage a cannula removing a pump?  Thing is Chas - nobody will have told them anyone will drop dead or have serious probs if they remove their pump for a few minutes- will they?

I daresay if you'd been on 'forced' oxygen they'd have made different arrangements.
Jenny

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Offline Chas C

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #2 on: 04 March 2018, 07:04:37 PM »
I do agree btw, until now I'd refused to remove my pump and was just swabbed. I may well change in future and unclip it.

I'd be interested to know which pump manufacturers have approved wearing through body scanners. I could not find any but have found people who claim to walk through fine with no damage.
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Offline sedge

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #3 on: 04 March 2018, 09:38:00 PM »
As I said Chas, I haven't checked but thought I'd read somewhere or another in the past that some makes said theirs was OK - would have been somewhere reliable-ish like Balance - cos I don't store things I discard as most likely to be rubbish any more.  I would want to check mine out direct with the mfrs pump helpline to be certain though.
Jenny

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HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #4 on: 05 March 2018, 09:56:38 AM »
I’ve rarely had a problem as I always say ahead of time that I have a pump and they’ve just swabbed it.  Once the operative in Faro was so busy talking to her mate that she apparently didn’t hear me and nastily told me to go take my mobile phone out of my pocket and put it through the X-ray.  She shut up when I told her what it was.  Another time in Budapest they wanted to swab my cannula which happened to be affixed very low on my belly that day... embarrassing, but it had been such a bunfight to get to security I just blushed and got onwith it.


Having said all that I’ve never come across a full body scanner.  Wonder if they have them in Gatwick?  I am flying out of there twice later this year.
Patti


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Offline everydayupsanddowns

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #5 on: 06 March 2018, 11:33:29 AM »
I've walked through a full body scanner wearing a Libre (without thinking about it) which survived intact, but I wouldn't want to risk it again because I know even Library door thingies have fried Libre sensors for people in the past.

I'm more than happy to disconnect and have the pump swabbed, but if I'm wearing a sensor I ask for a pat down.

I've never had a nightmare going through security, though they always ALWAYS tell me it is sbsolutely fine for everything to go through.

My reply is usually along the lines of, "You may be right, but I've checked with the manufacturer of this specific device(s) and their advice is not to go through full body scanners, and since this thing is keeping me alive while I'm away on holiday I'd rather not risk it if it's OK with you."

The worst experiences I've read about have always seemed to be people who absolutely refuse everything, and will not disconnect for a moment. I figure, I'm disconnected for 30 minutes every shower etc. So what's the problem.
Mike

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #6 on: 06 March 2018, 11:52:25 AM »
i have been through a body scanner with pod and libre attached no problem.

The "brains" of my pump is the PDM ( the personal Diabetes Manager) -- and that goes through the xray machine in my carry on.

usually have had the pod and libre swabbed too -- but not always.
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Offline Chas C

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #7 on: 06 March 2018, 06:48:22 PM »
. I figure, I'm disconnected for 30 minutes every shower etc. So what's the problem.

It's not the same though, being forced to disconnect in public rather than being at home under control. Also then handing over your pump to a contract security guard who may or not care about how it's handled or in worst case dropped fills me with dread.
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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #8 on: 06 March 2018, 08:09:51 PM »
I don't know how it is elsewhere, but I have read that at least in Canada they have no right to require you to disconnect your pump. They can ask, and you can offer, but it is absolutely your right to refuse to disconnect it - it is a life-saving medical device, after all! And I can understand that choosing not to disconnect will have some consequences, like longer processing times since you will need different screening procedures. But it is absurd that they don't have better procedures in place for something that they are legally obligated to be able (and willing!) to accommodate.
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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #9 on: 07 March 2018, 08:48:09 AM »
I asked Roche about my insight and flying,and their instructions are to disconnect  pump and remove battery the from pump and handset and put through with hand luggage this is what i do now, but can be  fiddly when stressed at security.
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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #10 on: 07 March 2018, 11:13:49 AM »
I asked Roche about my insight and flying,and their instructions are to disconnect  pump and remove battery the from pump and handset and put through with hand luggage this is what i do now, but can be  fiddly when stressed at security.

Wow! That's the first manufacturer I've seen recommending it goes through x-ray. Though taking battery out must be a right faff as you say.
Mike

Type 1 since: 1991 Last HBA1c: 45 (6.3%)  Total Chol 5.0 (1.9HDL / 2.8LDL / Trigs 0.7)
Pumping NovoRapid in a MiniMed 640G
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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #11 on: 07 March 2018, 11:16:46 AM »
Battery out of the handset too?  OMG, how fiddly, presumably then you have to walk through the scanner with them both in your hand?

Glad I don't intend flying anywhere, frankly.  I can't get the battery out of the pump with the cartridge staying in situ and it takes forever to reload cos it insists on rewinding and repriming.
Jenny

T1 DX 1972, pumping Novorapid 24/05/11

HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #12 on: 07 March 2018, 12:13:23 PM »
It's certainly a lot of faff.  I'd be more inclined to remove it and have it held by someone whilst I went into the scanner!
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Offline Chas C

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #13 on: 08 March 2018, 12:20:22 PM »
I've always put my handset and Dexcom receiver (when I had one) through the Hand baggage X-ray.

Pretty sure I would not follow those instructions from Roche other than pump and scanner not being good.

But I do wonder how much this is the manufacturer just not bothering to spend money on checking. The Omnipod pump is able to go through scanner and its controller through baggage X-ray.

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Re: Flying out of Heathrow with pump
« Reply #14 on: 10 March 2018, 05:03:13 PM »
My gut instinct has always been that it is likely okay and the pump manufacturers are being super safe. Having said that I take my pump off after warning the staff. They swab it while I go into the scanner and then I get a pat down.



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