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Offline Pattidevans

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Non adhesive cannulas
« on: 31 May 2018, 10:56:59 PM »
Hi all
Still on Combo.  Got 2 new boxes of cannulas without tubing and 10 days ago started them.  None of them have adhered more than 24 hours which has resulted in me being short to go on holiday as I have gone through a complete box in about 10 days.  Phoned them on Tue and they ordered me 2 new boxes to be delivered
weds.  Didn't happen and I went out with my friend to the county town shopping today on the train (40m mins journey), as pre-arranged last week.  J rang me to say new supplies had arrived today.  After my shower this morning I had checked my cannula and it looked fine, firmly attached.
Get off the train.  Walk to TK Maxx and find a lovely swimsuit for £9 and go to try it on only to discover that my cannula is peeling round the edges.  Fortunately still stuck in me.  Go next door to Boots and buy some MIcropore tape and request to the assistant on the medical counter that I could have access to somewhere private to put the stuff onto my medical device (explained all).  She was lovely and took me to a private room.  Unfortunately it was engaged, so I ended up with her and my friend standing guard whilst I unzsipped and opened my trousers and applied the tape over my cannula in a corner between the photo booth and a wall!  Ho ho.. at least it stuck it down for the day!
Been really nervous all day, but all has been well since!  What an experience!
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Offline sedge

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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #1 on: 31 May 2018, 11:41:26 PM »
Argh, I feel your pain though I've never had it happen - must have been a faulty batch or box??  Hope the new ones are a different S/N ?
Jenny

T1 DX 1972, pumping Novorapid 24/05/11

HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #2 on: 31 May 2018, 11:52:28 PM »
You really could make a sitcom about some of the funny things that we end up going through, couldn't you! Hope the new ones are better.
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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #3 on: 01 June 2018, 12:30:50 PM »
Ooh which cannulas? :eek: I'm about to order more Rapid Ds but I think you use teflon? (forget what they're called). I've previously had batches which were 'less sticky' than usual and could see pre-insertion the bare patches on the pad where the adhesive should've been but they weren't as unsticky as yours! Hope you're all sorted now!!

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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #4 on: 01 June 2018, 01:23:21 PM »
Hi Ingrid
Yes I got a delivery yesterday and replaced the non-adhesive cannula with one from a new batch.  I do use Flexlink 6mm teflon ones.  The lot number was 5204224.

You have to watch Roche at times.  The time before last I ordered I asked for 4 boxes of cartridges and they sent me 4 inserters instead.  When I rang them they said they'd arrange for them to be returned.  They never did, so last time I ordered I mentioned it again and said I still had the inserters to return. They did then arrange for their return. I also discovered they had charged my hospital for them so I insisted they issue a credit to the hospital.

I have written to them saying that I don't expect them to charge my hospital for the 2 boxes of faulty cannulas this time!  Or at least, to charge for their replacements.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #5 on: 02 June 2018, 02:07:30 AM »
Glad you're sorted now!

That's shocking that they charged for a misdelivery when they shouldn't have. And the mistakes in orders - I wonder how all the pump supply co.s compare in this respect?! May all be as bad as each other?? Last time I ordered 3 X boxes cannulas, saying I wanted exactly the same as per previous order = 3 boxes, but only received 2 and had to chase up the missing box. Was easily resolved but still...

Hmm, let's see what happens this time


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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #6 on: 02 June 2018, 10:02:18 AM »
Hi Ingrid


Of course we do not see the invoices so it’s not like we can check them, but going back to when I was working in the finance office of a charity I saw many invoices submitted twice, it was often only because I remembered entering them that any got queried.  In the case of pump funding the person entering the invoice for payment doesn’t actually know what has been delivered/ordered.  There ought to be some sort of audit trail IMHO.  I may mention it to the Diabetes centre.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #7 on: 02 June 2018, 01:19:26 PM »
Well you can hardly check the box when you sign to accept delivery - and Roche absolutely must know that fully well! 

To say the deliveries are 'securely packaged' is the understatement of the century - yards of very securely fixed wide brown packaging tape with very strong adhesive - the diametric opposite of that used on the box of cannulas Patti had!  Double layered cardboard used for the boxes, the sort with corrugated thinner card between the two layers, and despite 99% of the standard boxes probably being empty, a LOT of crumpled packaging paper in the spaces - takes ages to flatten out to squish it flat enough to get it in our 'paper' recycling compartment for the council.

Hence because the tape isn't recycle-able - you then have to remove all that then flatten the box small enough for the same reason - you need 20 minutes !
Jenny

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HbA1c - 7/07 8.7, 1/08 7.8, 9/08 8.4, 3/09 7.3, 7/09 7.2, 12/09 7.3, 11/10 8.1, 2/11 8.6, 9/11 6.5 2/12 6.4  5/12 50/6.7  11/12 52/6.9  01/13 46/6.4  06/16 46/6.4  12/16 45/6.4

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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #8 on: 02 June 2018, 01:37:54 PM »
Totally agree Sedge.
Yet when they arranged to finally pick up the 4 inserters I had to give them to the courier in an open box so he could check what he was collecting.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #9 on: 03 June 2018, 02:53:09 PM »
I've luckily never had an issue like this with the Inset II I use. I did loss a good few at the start but my body / brain got used to having a pump and now I rarely loss one in my sleep etc In fact not lost one bar catching it on a door handle in maybe a year.

Well I must say Animas has always been great with my deliveries. Sadly they are coming out of the pump market in the UK (and pretty much everywhere) They do pack the stuff so well that it takes a good 10-15 mins too process it for recycling :)

I'm sure it was a nightmare at the time Patti but your story did make me smile. Good thinking on buying the micropore tape. I have some in the diabetic drawer, I used to tape the tubing up with it. That meant that if I caught the tubing the pull was on the tape rather than the cannula.   
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HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
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Re: Non adhesive cannulas
« Reply #10 on: 04 June 2018, 09:03:20 AM »
I had micropore in the diabetic drawer too Liam.. lots of use there when I was away!  Amazing the sh*t we have in our diabetic drawers! 


Anyhoo I put one of the replacement cannulas on when I got home on Thurs evening and it’s still well stuck on.  I know... a day too long, but I forgot to change it yesterday and I’m due a full pump change today so it’s only a few hours really.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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