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Offline Liam

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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #15 on: 18 December 2018, 06:29:32 PM »
I've just did a quick Google and one 10ml vial of novolog costs the NHS £14. Which is about 18 dollars. Truly shocking what it costs in the USA.
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HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #16 on: 18 December 2018, 07:49:45 PM »

https://www.novologpro.com/prescribing/prescription-savings.html


hi gramma bear -- i am so beyond incensed $"£(&^$"!)K*&**^%%$$ ( polite version )

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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #17 on: 18 December 2018, 11:07:49 PM »
I am truly going to raise this issue internationally- let me ask in one or two places.
Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #18 on: 19 December 2018, 08:21:47 AM »
Does your insurance cover any other rapid insulin like apidra?
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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #19 on: 19 December 2018, 02:55:34 PM »
Sadly Lucy, the answer to your query is No. "Their choice" for me is Humalog, probably because it costs less from the manufacturer.  Here in the U.S. it is not what medicine is best for the patient, but instead it is what medicine is cheapest price from manufacturer.

I can order vial of insulin from our neighbor to the north, Canada, for around $45 USD compared to around $350 a vial in the U.S.  Many people are upset about the prices here and a number of groups that advocate for drug prices have struggled with this issue.  It all boils down to the old adage of "money talks".
 
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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #20 on: 19 December 2018, 10:32:55 PM »
Kathy


 I am suggesting a huge global protest about the stupid price of insulin in the USA.  I am hoping to pressure the big drug companies.  I have asked who would support such a thing ON FB

Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #21 on: 21 December 2018, 02:47:16 PM »
Patti ~ On FB there is a group called "Seniors with Sensors" that includes not just the Dexcom system, but also the Medtronic Enlite and the Libre.  If you have a peek there, you can see that the price of insulin in the U.S. is a source of many discussions.  Many people in the past have spoken the sentiment to "let doctors make the decisions about what medicines are best for people's particular situations."  We would welcome another voice in the struggle to see the price of insulin at a more reasonable level.

I don't know why nor how it happened, but yesterday I got a phone call from the head pharmacist (chemist) at our local pharmacy.  She informed me that my GPs letter of appeal for me to be granted the right to use Novolog instead of the insurance formulary Humalog, had been granted.  I could come by the store and pick up my prescription the Doctor ordered for me.   :o I had no idea that the doctor's letter of appeal was even being considered again.  It was denied the first time around, but granted the second.  The difference in price between Novolog and Humalog was $150 USD with Novolog costing that much more.  I am still shocked this morning, but ever so grateful.
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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #22 on: 21 December 2018, 04:29:33 PM »
So very happy for you. Still angry at the price of insulin in the USA but happy your doctor has managed to get you the best insulin for your needs.
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HbA1c 3/10 10.2%, 7/10 8.1%, 12/10 7.5%.
2/11 7.8%, 8/11 8.6% 9/11 8.3%.
3/12 62 (7.8%). 10/12 67 (8.3%)
4/13 63 (7.9%) 6/13 59 (7.5%)
1/14 71 (8.6%) 7/14 59 (7.5%) 11/14 (6.7%)
3/15 56 (7.3%) 12/15 49 (6.6%)
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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #23 on: 21 December 2018, 05:39:29 PM »

At the moment there might be quite a lot going on politically that makes some of us despair - but frankly right now, here - I'm mega grateful I flippingwell AM British!


I wonder if a lot of other people's doctors have had a go at your insurer about this too, Kathy?  Whatever - excellent new for you!
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Offline Pattidevans

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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #24 on: 24 December 2018, 10:30:50 AM »
Kathy


Firstly I’m pleased to hear you are now able to get Novolog again.


As you can see from Lucy’s prices that she posted earlier, vials of insulin are much cheaper here.  I am on Apidra @ £16 a vial.  One vial lasts me approx 24 days, sometimes 30, so around £208 per annum or $234 at the current exchange rate.  We apparently pay more than the rest of Europe.


I couldn’t find the group Seniors with Sensors, but I posted asking for facts in another US Facebook group run by an Endo.  I’ve belonged to it since it started but don’t go there much as it never seems very friendly.  Firstly I got told you admin that it was against the rules to be political and they don’t sign petitions.  So I pointed out I was merely asking for facts like “how much is insulin in the USA” wanting relevant links.  Then I was told “it varies depending on your insurer” and blaming the pharmacies.  Various members were quite hostile.  i was then told by their admin (the Endo) that prices were high in the US because “it costs a lot in research and development so the US drug companies and their US customers have to bear that, whilst countries like the U.K. have the benefits”. Positive rubbish! I gave up at that point. 


I do feel for you and other US friends, but perhaps pressure would be better coming from a US source.  I am sure you know people who are very articulate in your various forums and groups.  i’d Seriously suggest you pass this link in to them.  https://avaaz.org/page/en/
It’s a pressure organisation what has been very successful in taking in large conglomerates such as the drug companies.

Patti


Type 1.  Mis-diagnosed T2 May 2003, finally had CPeptide test 15/7/11 and proper diagnosis 1/9/11.  Now pumping Apidra with Roche Spirit Combo pump. Hba1c 6.1 Sept 2017.  45 (6.3) April 2018.


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Offline GrammaBear

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Re: Novolog to Humalog
« Reply #25 on: 24 December 2018, 02:33:18 PM »
Patti ~

I'm sorry you were treated so poorly in the forum you mentioned.  I also belong to that group although I also seldom go there or post.  It is not a friendly place in my opinion.

Personally I don't think that price gouging is what Dr. Frederick Banting had in mind when he invented insulin.  Why it happens in the US and seldom anywhere else is anyone's guess.  I do know that people have died here bcause they can't afford the insulin.  It is a sad commentary on this country.  I am glad you peeps have what works best for you.  I am also glad you are a friendly bunch and share what you know with the rest of us who are also afflicted with diabetes be it T1 or T2.  Thanks for your patience.
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