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Living with diabetes => Insulin and medication => Topic started by: JDRF UK on 05 April 2017, 12:20:57 PM

Title: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: JDRF UK on 05 April 2017, 12:20:57 PM
Good afternoon everyone,

Here at JDRF UK, we would like to know if you have been fined for picking up your type 1 #diabetes prescription without a medical exemption certificate. If it's happened to you in the last two years and you live in North Yorkshire, please contact 07908 155480.

Best wishes,

Callum
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Pattidevans on 05 April 2017, 01:53:45 PM
I've heard of this happening in various places, but it's not happened to me.  Since I am over 60 I no longer need one anyway.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: JDRF UK on 05 April 2017, 01:59:14 PM
Thank you Pattidevans.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: sedge on 05 April 2017, 07:40:33 PM
Never happened to me, either before or since.

Sounds like someone at the PCT (if it's they, I dunno who's responsible for such things today since it's beentoo long since I've been young enough too LOL) or wherever, firmly wearing a Jobsworth hat to me.  I've always found it perfectly ridiculous for at least T1s having to renew the flipping things in the first place.  Hallo - it's INCURABLE - and we're always going to need insulin until we shuffle off our mortal coils!

Come back and speak to us again AFTER they've found the cure and we've all recovered!  LOL
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: everydayupsanddowns on 06 April 2017, 09:30:27 AM
The various surgeries I have used over the years go through various cycles of 'always asking' and 'never asking'.

I suppose it's partly due to being fairly consistent in the ones I use, and them gradually getting to recognise me by sight.

I still do try to keep my certificate up to date though, just in case I need something while elsewhere.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: sedge on 06 April 2017, 12:34:41 PM
Point is Mike - they are renewable like they're doing us a favour (which of course they are I spose) but to then fine you, when you forget to renew, is a bit much.  I did it myself years and years ago when I didn't use a small pharmacy (used the one in the huge Boots store in the centre of Brum - prime position and covered 3 sales floors then at least another one for stock, offices, staff facilities ..) however Boots recognised it would be renewed, just told me to renew it pdq because by the time it went through their system, it would be about a month before anything would get done with it anyway that would involve the re-imbursement process. 
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Liam on 06 April 2017, 01:52:30 PM
I've not bothered to renew mine as everyone gets free prescriptions in Scotland. The only thing I might need it for is a NHS voucher for an eye test / glasses.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Dr DeEath on 06 April 2017, 04:26:10 PM
Part of the modern world! They also fine you for taking children on holiday in term time, putting stuff in the wrong bin, etc. I had a BACS transfer delayed by an insurance company by a month which caused me a cash flow problem. No way could I get any compensation for their incompetence but if I renew a day late the policy would be cancelled and an administration fee charged. :(
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Venomous on 06 April 2017, 04:36:12 PM
I am horrified the Dad lost his case in the supreme court regarding taking children out of school in term time! Children learn so much from travelling to foreign places. Travel is one of those ways to mature a person that education can't give.

Medical Exemption Certificate... we have to renew it??

My chemist never asks for it but then I guess they know I'm diabetic. I shall have to check if it has a date on it!!
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Pattidevans on 06 April 2017, 07:36:56 PM
V, you will certainly be in the group of persons who could be caught out, so I suggest you do look at it and check it and apply for a renewal if necessary.

For Sedge and other T1s... no we will not be able to reverse T1, but T2s on meds also have exemption certs and they can and do come off meds in which case if they revert to D&E then they are NOT entitled to free prescriptions.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: sedge on 06 April 2017, 10:46:14 PM
Well, true - but there again once they are no longer exempt, then they should immediately cancel the 'pass' - and one assumes are breaking the law if they don't.  If the NHS don't 'police' and enforce that - then they have no bloody business fining T1s !

IMHO, obviously LOL
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Pattidevans on 07 April 2017, 08:56:17 AM
I don't remember exactly, but I do not think the certificate states type.  In any case the law says that it is incumbent upon the holder to renew it when it runs out.  Not doing so renders people to be liable for a fine... end of!    JDRF are merely trying to help make people aware.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Liam on 07 April 2017, 12:40:27 PM
They only last about 5 years right? Been a long time so I might have that wrong.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Quantum Learning on 09 April 2017, 06:32:17 PM
Just fished mine out and it is 5 years but the accompanying letter says they'll send a reminder when it's due for renewal.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Lucy on 09 April 2017, 08:57:49 PM
Just fished mine out and it is 5 years but the accompanying letter says they'll send a reminder when it's due for renewal.

no idea where mine is or when it runs out, and moved house at least 3-4 times in the last 5 years without letting them know so I won't get their reminder letter. Have been diagnosed 8-9 years now so hopefully it's not due to run out for a while yet.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Pattidevans on 09 April 2017, 10:11:09 PM
You need to check it Lucy!
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Lucy on 09 April 2017, 10:23:49 PM
You need to check it Lucy!

Not sure how to until I find where it is.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Quantum Learning on 10 April 2017, 10:33:17 AM
Just fished mine out and it is 5 years but the accompanying letter says they'll send a reminder when it's due for renewal.

no idea where mine is or when it runs out, and moved house at least 3-4 times in the last 5 years without letting them know so I won't get their reminder letter. Have been diagnosed 8-9 years now so hopefully it's not due to run out for a while yet.

Looking at the letter that comes with, the phone number listed is 0300 3301641, says there's a website, www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/healthcosts It says you can phone or email with a change of address but I don't know if you can check whether yours is in date without drawing attention to it.
Title: Re: Penalty fines and medical exemption certificates
Post by: Pattidevans on 10 April 2017, 12:09:43 PM
Basically if it is out of date you do need to renew it, so drawing attention to the fact shouldn't be a problem.  Whist renewing you need to get a proper receipt for any prescriptions from the Pharmacy (NOT a till receipt - ask, they know what you need) and then claim back any charges.