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Living with diabetes => General discussion => Topic started by: Pattidevans on 08 January 2019, 06:21:08 PM

Title: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Pattidevans on 08 January 2019, 06:21:08 PM
Went to Specsavers yesterday for an eye test.  They are very thorough with their tests and do photos of the back of your eyes.  I was told that the background retinopathy that had been noted on the last two year's retinopathy tests had disappeared!  I did need new glasses as guess what?  My eyesight had improved - this is hardly surprising as I was suffering from high BGs at the time I had em tested last due to stress.  Anyhoo... went downstairs and wasn't impressed at all with the selection available, but by the time they cobbled a quote together for £89 frames, varifocal lenses (basic ones), photochromatic coating, anti-glare anti-scratch and said "Oh you can have a 2nd pair free"... well I didn't want all that on the 2nd pair, I wanted occupational lenses to see the computer, with a bit of reading on the bottom, the whole thing came to £296.  I thanked them and said I'd return with hubby to choose the frames.
Cut a long story short, took my script to ASDA today and got exactly the same specification glasses for £168 total with better varifocals!  Result!
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitian.
Post by: Lucy on 08 January 2019, 06:29:33 PM
That sounds better, glad your eyes have improved. I think one of mine has got worse, have to concentrate to focus on things. I am not due an eye test for about 18 months though and bgs have improved recently so avoiding going to get them tested.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: sedge on 09 January 2019, 01:15:15 AM
Lucy  free eye tests are available any time there has been a change in your eyesight  - and being diabetic you don't need to wait 18 months cos we're entitled to one free every year anyway!

If the optician can't detect any change despite diligent checking then yes, we do have to pay for the test.  However - you the patient always knows there's a change before any optician does for the simple reason they aren't you!

Just go and get em done.

You xperience Patti is more or less the same as me - except Boots were well over £300 for frames I didn't really like and Asda were £45 for ones I do!  It's such a huge price difference it has to be done - but I still feel guilty cos I selfishly want my Boots optician to keep being there for me - and the fewer people who buy the complete thing, the less likely it is that they'll stay open in such a small town.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Pattidevans on 09 January 2019, 09:28:52 AM
Well, do you know, regarding the frequency of eye-tests, I thought the same as you Sedge, every year as a diabetic.  I am sure I had one every year as my previous private Optician.  However, Specsavers were adamant it was every two years unless the Optician put you on a 12 month schedule.  I know my old opticians wouldn’t test my eyes unless it was due or I paid.  It’s why I left them.  My glasses had broken irreparably, I had no spare pair, and I wasn’t about to fork out £400+ (what rhe broken ones had cost) for another pair without a test.


FWIW I feel guilty about going elsewhere to buy specs too... but frankly I cannot afford to spend an extra £130 needlessly.  We do have a Simply Health plan [size=78%]https://www.simplyhealth.co.uk/health-plans/cash-plan?banner=HomepageCashplanCallout (https://www.simplyhealth.co.uk/health-plans/cash-plan?banner=HomepageCashplanCallout)[/size]
Which more than pays for itself over the year.  It includes dentistry, physio, specs etc and I got to see tbe orivate dermatologist, without whom I would still be balding!
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: sedge on 09 January 2019, 09:04:02 PM
Maybe mine have always put me on 12 monthly - I don't know, but I have searched online and though there's reference to us being entitled to free ones, nothing at all I could find about frequency.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Liam on 09 January 2019, 10:34:56 PM
Think the rules might be different in Scotland, but I get invited for a free test every 12 months.

In fact I'm over due. They kept texting and emailing me just before Xmas and I was to busy to be bothered with it. I'll need to book in sometime soon.

Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: sedge on 09 January 2019, 11:41:34 PM
Aha!

Apparently (at least in England) in 2016 the NHS discussed which to keep annually - eyesight tests or retinopathy checks - retinopathy won.  Sight went to every 2 years same as everybody and the caveat that if the person detects any change, they can have a retest any time with the normal condition that if no change is found - you have to pay for the test.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Pattidevans on 10 January 2019, 09:42:43 AM
Also if you pay for the test then your 2 years resets to a date 2 years since you paid, rather than 2 years from the last free one.  Shafted!
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: GrammaBear on 10 January 2019, 02:37:27 PM
Here in the US, I think we get shafted as well.  Our eye exam is paid for by Medicare but absolutely no help with the cost of eyeglasses.  Last year I got new everyday frames and lenses, and a pair of computer glasses and lenses and I had to pay over $800 USD.  They make a lot of money just on the frames which are usually plastic.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Pattidevans on 10 January 2019, 07:32:09 PM
Some people are eligible for some help with the cost of spectacles from the state (https://www.nhs.uk/using-the-nhs/help-with-health-costs/nhs-voucher-values-for-glasses-and-lenses/) but it seems very complicated and no one has ever mentioned it to me.  We pay a a monthly subscription to Simply Health.  When we were both working our employers paid the subscriptions, when we retired we took over ourselves paying.  As  I said before, the benefits outweigh the costs by quite a bit for the two of us.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Liam on 10 January 2019, 10:23:20 PM
Again might be different in Scotland but I get help with the costs. I paid a bit extra for antiglare and scratch coating and I think a little for frames I liked. I could have got them completely free if I'd picked the right range without extras.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: himtoo on 11 January 2019, 08:18:52 AM
I get invited for an eye test at the optician once a year which is free ( wales )
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Blueduck on 11 January 2019, 08:52:02 AM
I also am called to my local optician once a year, normally I go for my hospital eye check half way through the year so they get checked every 6 months, but I have had a detached retina, not sure if that makes a difference
My last glasses, all singing and dancing vari focal, cost 400.00, which was a shock, but I was desperate after falling over when walking the dog, wasn’t drunk, honest, and broke my last pair
Am going to look elsewhere next time as they were so expensive....but like sedge said, if you don’t support and use local shops/amenities will they eventually disappear?

Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: sedge on 11 January 2019, 11:35:41 AM
When they are so much more expensive than some of the opposition, who you have been satisfied with in the past (this is the third time I've had specs made at Asda) - it actually REALLY annoys me having to go elsewhere - but what on earth do they, as a business, expect customers to do except vote with their feet and bank accounts?  I have difficulty anyway getting frames that suit my face and that's now worse since dark frames came into fashion - don't mind 'darker' but so many thick black ones.


I don't expect I will be responsible for bankrupting Boots.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Liam on 11 January 2019, 01:31:17 PM
I had some problems with getting frames that suited me too. They had lots of thick and dark frames, and very little choice outside that in the hundreds of styles. I finally got the man doing the sales bit to find me ones close to what I wanted.

I only really suit thin and small frames.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Pattidevans on 11 January 2019, 02:31:43 PM
Asda had a better selection of thin frames than I have seen elsewhere.  There are also a number of "John Lennon" type frames about - do not suit me at all!  I got some a bit like this https://opticians.asda.com/Prescription-Glasses/Joan-Collins/505478165543 (https://opticians.asda.com/Prescription-Glasses/Joan-Collins/505478165543)  was going to have both occupational and varifocals in the same frames but then I'd be going out wearing the occupational ones and not the proper outdoor ones, so chose a different frame so I can just touch the top of the arms to ascertain which pair I have on
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Dr DeEath on 11 January 2019, 05:53:30 PM
I have used a local independent for decades. As diabetes runs in his family he had a special interest and if it is more than four to five months I let him out in drops and take a butchers. Sadly he retired while I had all the eye/heart shenanigans. I do wonder if the people who took over will match up. He always cut his regulars a good deal if they ordered two or more pairs. I will miss him but know he was getting increasingly frustrated by the NHS/benefit rules and people trying to play the system. He felt people should be given a voucher if entitled to free tests or glasses instead of piling the responsability on those doing a different job. My dentist has made similar comments!
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Ziggy on 14 January 2019, 08:39:20 AM
Yearly here in NI and free for people with diabetes


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Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Libra on 22 January 2019, 07:55:46 PM
I get annual free sight checks as my Mum has glaucoma. If it was just because of diabetes I think it would be 2 years.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Pattidevans on 22 January 2019, 08:03:28 PM
Hiya Jenny and welcome back.


Ah, glaucoma is a real risk, so glad you get the test yearly.  I did at our last optician, but apparently not with Specsavers.  New glasses are ready to pick up but we aren’t able to get over before Monday.


How are things diabetically for you these days?
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Libra on 22 January 2019, 08:46:10 PM
Diabetically I'm great Patti. I did an "I'm back" post in Introduce Yourself.
Title: Re: Visit to the Optitician.
Post by: Pattidevans on 22 January 2019, 09:24:38 PM
I will look!